00:03 dented42: what's the story behind the reader and writer being able to produce/consume compiled code?
00:03 brum: what's the deal with airline food?
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00:06 RacketCommitBot: racket/master 9d08d69 Asumu Takikawa: Add contracts to net/dns functions.
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00:07 dented42: forgive me if it seems like a stupid question. It just seems… out of place, I'm wondering what the reason behind it is.
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01:25 shriphani: hi. I have a question about at-exp. In this snippet: http://pastebin.ca/2326918, @paragraph{} thinks it is getting 3 arguments. Can someone tell me how to work around this? Thanks.
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01:32 shriphani: well I just made it a multiple arity function. nvm. Is this the only way or am I super dense?
01:34 dented42: asumu: if it doesn't stand for anything, then why were those letters chosen? did they just sound good? not that there's anything wrong with that, I'm just curious.
01:37 shriphani: Also. at-exps seem to love using newlines as arguments too... Is there a way around that ?
01:46 jonrafkind: shriphani, probably the last invocation of @paragraph is the one giving you 3 arguments, because you have a string, then @link-anchor then another string
01:46 jonrafkind: in general functions that can be used with @xx{} should take a rest argument, like (define (paragraph . s) ...)
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03:08 yeboot: rudybot: (define (die) (println "rosebud") (sleep 1) (exit))
03:08 rudybot: yeboot: your sandbox is ready
03:08 rudybot: yeboot: Done.
03:08 yeboot: rudybot: (die)
03:08 rudybot: yeboot: error: println: undefined; <NEWLINE>  cannot reference an identifier before its definition <NEWLINE>   in module: 'program
03:08 yeboot: gdi wtf
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08:28 troydm: let's say i have a struct with #:transparent
08:28 troydm: called int
08:29 troydm: (int 12) <- plain struct
08:29 troydm: if i bind it in repl
08:29 troydm: it's displayed like (int 12)
08:29 troydm: however if i do (display (int 12))
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08:29 troydm: i get weird #(struct: int 12)
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08:30 troydm: how do i output formated data as repl ?
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08:32 didi: troydm: Try `print'.
08:32 troydm: didi: thx
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09:15 asumu: dented42: what were you saying about the reader/writer and compiled code? I didn't understand what you meant.
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09:16 asumu: troydm: the REPL uses `write` to print values most likely.
09:21 didi: rudybot: (struct foo () #:transparent)
09:21 rudybot: didi: your sandbox is ready
09:21 rudybot: didi: Done.
09:21 didi: rudybot: (foo)
09:21 rudybot: didi: ; Value: #(struct:foo)
09:21 didi *sigh*
09:22 didi: asumu: It doesn't seem to be the case here. But it might be some geiser wizardly.
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09:26 asumu: rudybot: eval (struct point (x y) #:transparent) (point 3 4)
09:26 rudybot: asumu: your typed/racket sandbox is ready
09:26 rudybot: asumu: error: Type Checker: Summary: 4 errors encountered
09:26 asumu: rudybot: init racket
09:26 rudybot: asumu: your sandbox is ready
09:26 asumu: rudybot: eval (struct point (x y) #:transparent) (point 3 4)
09:26 rudybot: asumu: ; Value: #(struct:point 3 4)
09:26 asumu: Hmm, odd.
09:26 didi: rudybot: version
09:26 rudybot: didi: 978fa89
09:26 didi: rudybot: (version)
09:26 rudybot: didi: ; Value: "5.3.2"
09:26 asumu: rudybot: #(struct:point 3 4)
09:26 rudybot: asumu: ; Value: #(struct:point 3 4)
09:26 asumu: Maybe it just writes to this.
09:26 didi: Hey, rudybot has been upgraded.
09:27 didi: rudybot: source
09:27 rudybot: didi: git clone git://github.com/offby1/rudybot.git
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10:19 RacketCommitBot: racket/master ef4b3fe Asumu Takikawa: Improve Guide chapter 7...
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10:42 asumu: I used to pooh-pooh complaints about how baroque IPv6 addresses are, but now that I want to write a function to parse them...
10:43 asumu: Although even IPv4 addresses turn out to have weird issues.
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11:02 stamourv: asumu: Re co-~a: Isn't that just `read'?
11:04 stamourv: yeboot: Re meaning of PLT: It's a little known fact that Racket is developed by the research division of Pittsfield Lawn and Tractor. (http://www.plt.com/)
11:04 didi: rudybot: Memorize this ^
11:04 rudybot: didi: is there some memorize function that will cache result of other function calls? (also between multiple emacs runs)?
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11:06 stamourv: rudybot: PLT
11:06 rudybot: stamourv: I sympathize.  If you do try PLT, use its native module system.  Don't limit yourself to R6RS.
11:06 stamourv: rudybot: PLT
11:06 rudybot: stamourv: are you using plt scheme with the lazy scheme language by chance?
11:06 soegaard: stamourv: More or less.   It would be hand to have ~i ~f ~s produce integer, floats, and single floats respectively
11:06 stamourv: rudybot: PLT
11:06 rudybot: stamourv: LiSP is supposed to be good. I have not read it myself. However, Ikarus might be considered "state of the art" when it comes to a certain class of Scheme compiler. If you like the approach taken by Aziz and Kent Dybvig, their papers are of course, something you should examine. Also see the papers that surround the implementation of Larceny, Stalin, and PLT Scheme.
11:06 stamourv: didi: No luck.
11:06 didi: :^(
11:06 stamourv: soegaard: Agreed.
11:07 soegaard: Also I am missing an read-integer that only read the an integer from a port.
11:07 soegaard: rudybot: eval (read (open-input-string "-3--2"))
11:07 rudybot: soegaard: your sandbox is ready
11:07 rudybot: soegaard: ; Value: -3--2
11:08 stamourv: rudybot: eval (symbol? (read (open-input-string "-3--2")))
11:08 rudybot: stamourv: your sandbox is ready
11:08 rudybot: stamourv: ; Value: #t
11:09 soegaard: It would be really handy to read-integer, read-symbol, read-boolean, etc.
11:09 stamourv: soegaard: Sadly, given the way the reader is written, it couldn't be reused to implement that.
11:09 soegaard: Yeah.
11:10 soegaard: But they must exist in some form in the C code.
11:13 soegaard: Just checked and the answer is no. The reader is implemened using giant case constructs.
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11:19 stamourv: soegaard: Yeah, that's what I meant.
11:19 stamourv: The reader is not the prettiest code, but it's a *lot* better than it used to.
11:20 soegaard: ;-)
11:21 stamourv: I don't think I've ever seen a production (read: fast) reader that was modular.
11:21 asumu: stamourv: technically, co-~a is not read if you expect the property that (compose co-~a ~a) = identity.
11:21 stamourv: asumu: For sufficiently loose values of identity.
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12:23 mithos28: What is the easiest way to profile racket code? Also I want to do this at phase1 if it is important.
12:27 jonrafkind: http://docs.racket-lang.org/profile/index.html?q=profile#%28mod-path._profile%29
12:27 rudybot: http://tinyurl.com/dybeber
12:27 jonrafkind: works ok
12:28 jonrafkind: phase 1 is tough.. the standard answer is to put all the phase 1 code in a phase 0 module, test it there, then pray that it works similarly at phase 1
12:28 mithos28: Racket search really needs stemming
12:28 mithos28: I tried 'profiling'
12:28 jonrafkind: heh
12:28 jonrafkind: i think that keyword can be added to the profile module
12:29 mithos28: So the issue is that the code is known to not work the same when not run at phase0
12:29 mithos28: sorry phase1
12:30 mithos28: Because syntax objects are complicated
12:30 jonrafkind: yes.. i run into that issue sometimes too
12:30 jonrafkind: im not aware of a solution :(
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13:17 greghendershott: I just spent longer than I care to admit stumped by a dumb bug.
13:17 greghendershott: rudybot: (match (list 1 2) [(list x more ..) #t])
13:17 rudybot: greghendershott: your sandbox is ready
13:17 rudybot: greghendershott: error: match: no matching clause for '(1 2)
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13:18 greghendershott: It's easier to spot here in isolation.
13:18 greghendershott: Should `match` give me an error message for my stupid missing . in the pattern?
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13:28 asumu: greghendershott: .. is a valid pattern though, unfortunately.
13:29 greghendershott: It is?
13:29 greghendershott: *checks the docs*
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13:31 asumu: Well it's just a variable.
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13:31 asumu: rudybot: (match (list 1 2) [(list .. ....) (values .. ....)])
13:31 rudybot: asumu: your sandbox is ready
13:31 rudybot: asumu: ; Value: 1
13:31 rudybot: asumu: ; Value#2: 2
13:31 greghendershott: oh
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13:32 greghendershott: rudybot: (let ([.. 0]) (list .. 1))
13:32 rudybot: greghendershott: ; Value: (0 1)
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13:32 greghendershott: okaaaay. Got it. :)
13:33 greghendershott: On the bright side I've typed hundreds of match patterns but not made this mistake until now.
13:36 asumu: greghendershott: it's an easy mistake to make. Even worse is in Redex, where "...." is a valid pattern in some grammars.
13:37 asumu has had issues when he did ... instead of .... in Redex grammars... 
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13:40 greghendershott: Identifier name freedom is one of the things I find the most refreshing in Racket.
13:40 greghendershott: I think I'd confused myself that since . is a reader symbol, .. would be, too.
13:41 greghendershott: Or should I say . ... :)
13:42 greghendershott: Or actually . ...+
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13:43 greghendershott: OK enough of that. Back to work. Thanks asumu
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14:08 dyoo: mithos suggested that maybe the help desk can use a stemmer?  There should be implementations of the porter stemmer around there that the js code can use.
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14:46 dented42: asumu: the reader and the writer have documentation saying that #~ starts a segment of compiled code.
14:47 dented42: rudybot: (compile-syntax #'(+ 1 1))
14:47 rudybot: dented42: your sandbox is ready
14:47 rudybot: dented42: ; Value: #~5.3.2T
14:47 dyoo: dented: somewhat related: http://docs.racket-lang.org/reference/fasl.html
14:48 dyoo: dented42: you're looking at http://docs.racket-lang.org/reference/printing.html#%28part._print-compiled%29, right?
14:48 rudybot: http://tinyurl.com/bxxq9cy
14:49 dented42: yes
14:49 dyoo: do you have questions about it?  I've only touched this a little bit just because I needed to use compiler/zol-parse on compiled code.
14:50 dented42: I do, it's not a question of how do I use it or anything, I'm wondering why it's there.
14:50 dented42: it seems oddly low level for a lisp.
14:50 asumu didn't know there was a #~ thing.
14:51 asumu: dented42: if that seems low level, take a look at PreScheme. :p
14:51 dyoo: I think of it as just another kind of data that the reader knows about…. though it's weird because it's binary rather than textual.
14:52 soegaard: It is useful to distribute code without its source.
14:56 dented42: so that means the compiled files are read/written using the reader/writer?
14:57 dented42: asumu: Oh wow, that is low level.
14:57 dyoo: Something has to do it.  :)
14:58 dented42: wow, that is cool.
14:58 dyoo: I think I remember seeing other lisps, such as Common Lisp, doing a similar thing.
14:58 soegaard: If you are curious, it is on line 5348  https://github.com/plt/racket/blob/master/src/racket/src/read.c
14:59 dyoo: soegaard: if you click on the line number column in github, it actually makes it bookmarkable as an anchor
14:59 asumu hadn't noticed until now that zo files start with #~..., that's pretty neat, in a way
14:59 soegaard: dyoo: nice
14:59 dyoo: e.g. https://github.com/plt/racket/blob/master/src/racket/src/read.c#L5348
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15:32 soegaard: I have implemented read-number and readers for more specific types of numbers too.   https://github.com/soegaard/this-and-that/blob/master/readers/read-number.rkt
15:32 rudybot: http://tinyurl.com/bc5v9cb
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16:24 RacketCommitBot: racket/master e74c8b1 Asumu Takikawa: Fix broken link
16:24 RacketCommitBot: racket/master 50cd464 Asumu Takikawa: Another small contract fix
16:24 RacketCommitBot: racket/master 94b2ebd Asumu Takikawa: Add DNS tests
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17:49 danking: Am I crazy for wanting to bind the result of a #:when clause? I have a function which returns false if it short circuits (in which case I want to skip this loop iteration) but returns a number of interest to the loop iteration otherwise.
17:49 danking: Should I be structuring my program in some other way?
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17:50 RacketCommitBot: racket/master cb8dd14 Matthew Flatt: slideshow/balloon: add `balloon-enable-3d'
17:50 RacketCommitBot: racket/master 174a80f Matthew Flatt: doc repair
17:50 RacketCommitBot: racket/master 292c81a Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado: Fix `configure' for OpenBSD...
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18:15 stamourv: danking: Yeah, happens to me too.
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18:16 stamourv: Here's one things you can do, use `for*', and have a dummy sequence that's `(in-value thing-for-when clause)', then you add the when clause referring to that.
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18:46 danking: stamourv: ah, neat thanks
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19:00 danking: I really need to stop hacking at night, I inevitably produce crappy code.
19:01 asumu: danking: it just means you need to go hit the Ballmer peak
19:01 dyoo: gah, my brain.
19:01 danking: asumu: Haha, well if the theme of grad school visits keeps up, I think I can repeatedly hit the balmer peak on the cheap.
19:02 danking feels bad for dyoo's brain.
19:02 dyoo: danking: no more coding for me today.  Fighting whalesong code.  Feel like ahab.
19:03 danking: Haha
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19:04 danking: I'm sitting here thinking, "You fool, if you had realized an hour ago how hard this would be you could have written tests and stuff instead of diving in"
19:04 danking: I realize I should never assume that a fix is easy.
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19:05 dyoo: danking: wise words.
19:06 dyoo: I hope everyone has a good weekend!
19:06 dented42: I know there are a lot of reasons why you shouldn't, but is it possible to turn of contracts? (besides not using them in the first place, I mean)
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19:12 asumu: dented42: there's no global flag to do it, but you can write your own macro that does that.
19:12 dented42: ok
19:12 asumu: dented42: e.g., https://github.com/plt/racket/blob/master/collects/typed-racket/utils/utils.rkt
19:12 rudybot: ??
19:12 asumu: (see define/cond-contract or provide/cond-contract)
19:12 dented42: why is rudybot confused?
19:13 dented42: ok, thanks
19:14 dented42: I suppose that's a good idea, otherwise people would be tempted to turn contracts off after the testing phase, witch would be rather like taking off your seatbelt after passing your drivers test.
19:14 dented42: s/witch/which/
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19:58 asumu: dented42: eventually there will be a way to do this in a more principled way, but it's still under development.
19:59 dented42: ok
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20:39 RacketCommitBot: racket/master 3277492 Robby Findler: tweak docs
20:39 RacketCommitBot: racket/master b0db879 William J. Bowman: Changed `define-union-language' to merge nonterminals and their...
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21:30 maxigas: is there a minimal racket for embedded devices?
21:32 maxigas: well actually i just want to play around with lisp using emacs and command line and i don't feel like install 265MB of jingles on my machine. :)
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23:07 asumu: eli: did a gnats setting change recently or something? I get more messages from the bug tracker now.
23:07 asumu: maxigas: did you try getting racket-textual?
23:08 asumu: http://download.racket-lang.org/racket-textual-v5.3.3.html
23:08 asumu: It is somewhat smaller, though I don't know how much. Never installed it myself.
23:08 shriphani: Hi. Is there a single command I can run to use my .rkt file as a #lang language ?
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23:22 eli: asumu: What are the additional messages?
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23:41 maxigas: asumu: thanks for the tip!
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