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00:10 mithos28: dented42: Not that I know of
00:14 adu: you could always do some #define hackery
00:15 mithos28: adu: doing what? changing racket_ to scheme_?
00:16 adu: mithos28: yeah, just get a list of C functions, and for X in …; do echo "#define scheme_${X} racket_${X}"; done > rename.h
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00:16 mithos28: that breaks existing binaries that dynamically link racket
00:17 mithos28: you would need to do it the other way
00:17 adu: then you could do the reverse
00:17 adu: which binaries?
00:18 mithos28: vim
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00:23 adu: are you talking about this? http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/if_mzsch.html
00:23 mithos28: yes
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00:27 adu: the vim-mzscheme extension authors would be open to a scheme => racket patch, or a configurable prefix
00:27 adu: oops
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00:27 adu: I meant "I would assume that…"
00:28 mithos28: adu: that doesn't solve the issue, old versions of vim would no longer work with new versions of racket
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11:42 errstr: How would i compose multiple lexer-abbrevs into a single identifier for use in the (lexer) definition, i.e. i have multiple abbrevs for string literals, but i'd like to put them under one abbrev called 'lit'
11:43 errstr: with 'match' i'd define a match-expander
11:44 errstr: not sure if lexer is doing 'match' in the background or if that would work
11:45 errstr: nm, define-lexer-trans looks like the ticket
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12:22 tewk: How do I escape a @ in scribble?
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12:25 mithos28: You want the literal @ string in a {} context?
12:25 tewk: mithos28: yes
12:26 mithos28: I would look at the scribble docs (the actual scribble part) because they do it a lot
12:27 mithos28: or @"@"
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13:59 mye: can't I use a (module+) inside a (module) inside a #lang? I get anormal: Dropped through: in: (module* test #f (#%module-begin ...
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14:06 samth: mye: works for me
14:06 samth: #lang racket
14:06 samth: (module m racket
14:06 samth: (module+ test))
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14:11 ASau: 5.3.1.900 is pre-release, isn't it?
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14:16 dyoo: mye: is the error in the context of something like web-server?  the word "anomral" in there implies the stuff that deals with serializable continuations.
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14:26 mye: dyoo: you're right it is
14:26 dyoo: In that case, you might need to check with jay mccarthy, since the serializable continuations are a language extension, and it's possible his a-normalizer hasn't accounted for submodules yet.
14:31 stamourv: ASau: Yes.
14:31 stamourv: Pre-releases have the last part of the version number >= 900.
14:32 mye: So, as far as I understand I have no alternative bc. I can't switch the lang to racket and require the language extension
14:32 ASau: stamourv: then there's that problem in "deep" test present still.
14:32 mye: Then I'll definitely file a bug, if module+ are supposed to work in web-server in the first place
14:33 mye: are they?
14:33 stamourv: ASau: Is the problem also present in git HEAD?
14:34 ASau: stamourv: I haven't tested it yet.
14:34 dyoo: mye: using submodules in that context probably should have worked.  Yes, please file the bug.
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14:35 ASau: stamourv: but I'll report in a while.
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15:05 acarrico: No enfield thread on the mailing list?
15:06 asumu: acarrico: feel free to start one. :)
15:06 asumu: (I haven't seen one)
15:07 dyoo: acarrico: it was a funny advertismenty blog post.  Started reading it, and said: "waitaminute…"
15:07 asumu: I "got" it after I saw the class* example.
15:07 acarrico: done.
15:08 acarrico: I was suspicious as soon as I saw the logo
15:11 mye: I generate a (test-equal?) in a macro and want it to get the location of a pattern variable so that when it fails it gets highlighted. I have done this before with some trial'n'error combination of #` and syntax/loc. What is the right way?
15:11 mye: currently clicking on the error symbol in Dr. jumps me deep into rackunit
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15:14 samth: acarrico: the logo was a late addition
15:14 dyoo: mye: do you have sample code?
15:14 dyoo: can take a look.
15:14 mye: https://gist.github.com/4627226 my thing
15:14 dyoo: mye: ok, looking...
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15:15 dyoo: yeah, when the tests fail, the rackunit system uses the location of the syntax (test-equal? …)
15:15 dyoo: mye: so if you're constructing a new piece of syntax, you'll want to decorate specific parts with the right lcoation.
15:16 dyoo: mye: let me see what this looks like...
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15:17 dyoo: mye: like this: https://gist.github.com/4627246
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15:18 dyoo: mye; I had to do similar stuff as well when testing ragg errors.  See the 'check-compile-error' thing in https://github.com/dyoo/ragg/blob/master/ragg/test/test-errors.rkt
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15:20 stamourv: ASau: Thanks!
15:20 stamourv: I believe there's going to be a new release candidate build eventually, so if the bug is fixed in HEAD, we need to make sure the fix is in the release.
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15:21 dyoo: by the way, who's managing the "new bug tracking" project for Racket?  Is that Sam or Eli?  Is there anything that I or some other volunteer can do to help?
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15:22 samth: dyoo: me
15:22 stamourv: acarrico: Hah, I hadn't seen the logo. Wasn't there when I first read the article.
15:22 samth: dyoo: and send me an email re: helping
15:23 dyoo: samth: ok; got it!
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15:49 mye: rackunit shows the correct location now but no highlight or the big button that jumps to the source in the Dr. window
15:51 mye: I should be satisfied, although I liked this feature. (Note to self: stop making your life hard by writing stupid macros)
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15:58 samth: ryan_c: welcome!
15:58 samth: ryan_c: what's the current release schedule status/
15:58 samth: ?
15:58 ryan_c: samth, hi
15:59 dyoo: mye: huh!  That should be working.  gist example?
16:00 ryan_c: samth, waiting on a build issue to be resolved. Other than that, not much left to do before release.
16:00 samth: ryan_c: are we going to change pnr -> pkg?
16:01 samth: ryan_c: my understanding is that's mostly gated on eli
16:01 ryan_c: I believe no, re: the pnr->pkg move. Not for the release, anyway.
16:02 ryan_c: But it's also possible that it'll suddenly happen and we end up including it.
16:02 mye: dyoo: same as before, but this is what i have now https://gist.github.com/4627703
16:03 mye: the rackunit integration with Dr. is by my guess failing here
16:04 dyoo: mye: odd.  So when I run it, I see two icons (the first being the stacktrace-display, the second being the overall location)
16:04 mye: it still jumps me into check.rkt in rackunit
16:04 dyoo: mye: when I click the second, it highlights add-the-answer, which I expected.
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16:04 mye: dyoo: than I must be doing something wrong :-/
16:05 mye: dyoo: build/plt/collects/rackunit/private/check.rkt:183:8: Check failure    this is under the error message
16:05 mye: to it uses the incorrect file
16:05 dyoo: quick check: are your language settings customized so that it includes no debugging info?
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16:06 mye: dyoo: hnngghh I disabled this yesterday, with the intention to have an eye on the effects
16:06 dyoo: mye: that is, does your language at the bottom say: "Determine language from source custom"?
16:06 mye: now I know !
16:06 dyoo: ah ha.  :)
16:07 dyoo: this still begs the question: why does that totally screw up the error reporting?  :)
16:07 mye: but subjectively Dr. seems much more responsive
16:07 dyoo: but ok, good.  set it back to default and try again, and let's just confirm that this is the reason you weren't getting good error reporting.
16:09 mye: dyoo: it works with debugging
16:10 dyoo: mye: ok, good.  So I'm taking a brief glance at the internals of rackunit to see how it handles source location.  Maybe there's some stupid-simple thing that's causing it to break badly under debug-off mode.
16:11 mye: dyoo: I glanced at the code too, it transforms from the stx into a list
16:12 dyoo: huh.  Shouldn't it also capture the source location of the test case somewhere?  That would be the straighforward info to capture so that errors can be flagged correclty, right?
16:14 dyoo: mye: gaah.  This will take a little longer to study than I currently have time for.  Sorry!  I have to work on something else at the moment.  I'll come back to this when I have a chance.
16:15 mye: dyoo: it's really not too important, now I know what caused it. Thank you very much indeed for the help.
16:16 dyoo: If you can report this as a bug, that would be great as well.  :)  It's certainly not helpful when rackunit says that rackunit's to blame when a test fails.
16:18 mye: will do. gn8
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19:20 ozzloy: samth, are there notes/slides somewhere for the racketcon videos? http://goo.gl/8a5t9 like this one?
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19:36 samth: ozzloy: see http://con.racket-lang.org/
19:37 samth: that's the first talk, and there's a link to the code
19:41 ozzloy: samth_away, cool, thanks!
19:41 ozzloy: samth_away, could you put a link to that in the description?
19:42 ozzloy: i'll probably want it again in the future and i'll probably lose it
19:42 (topic) samth: 
19:42 samth: dammit!
19:42 ozzloy: oh, in the topic works too
19:42 ozzloy: thanks
19:43 ozzloy: Topic for #racket is: Racket: http://racket-lang.org -- RacketCon
19:43 ozzloy: videos:
19:43 ozzloy: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQC7pQ_gNllaY_NFQTwHFZTpjeR_PwKmb --
19:43 (topic) samth: Racket -- http://racket-lang.org -- RacketCon videos/slides: http://con.racket-lang.org -- logs at http://racket-lang.org/irc-logs/
19:44 ozzloy: thanks again!
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23:05 RacketCommitBot: racket/master 27442fa Robby Findler: make contracts slightly more readable for...
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23:11 ASau: stamourv: I'm on very slow link now, it has only started building.
23:11 ASau: stamourv: thus, the result will be later. But it should happen today. :)
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23:16 RacketCommitBot: racket/master e75e494 Sam Tobin-Hochstadt: Fix contracts and expected computation for tc-any-results.
23:16 RacketCommitBot: racket/master 492bda2 Sam Tobin-Hochstadt: Avoid using unsafe structure access....
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23:58 ASau: stamourv: JFYI, HEAD doesn't even build.
23:58 ASau: raco setup: running: typed-racket/scribblings/ts-reference.scrbl
23:58 ASau: raco setup: running: typed-racket/scribblings/ts-guide.scrbl
23:58 ASau: Seg fault (internal error) at 0x2aac0046
23:58 ASau: [1]   Abort trap (core dumped) env CFLAGS="-O2 ...
23:59 ASau: stamourv: no idea what to do currently.