00:00 mithos28: So now there is a tiff parser in racket?
00:06 neilv: yes
00:06 mithos28: why?
00:06 neilv: in pure racket, no external programs or ffi
00:06 mithos28: ah
00:07 jaimef: https://gist.github.com/4093458 what am I missing to make this work right?
00:07 neilv: i made an ogg parser (which was a lot harder than tiff) for rackout, and am trying to decide whether to make standalone libraries for each file format, or make a "mediafile" library that can get metadata and such from many file types, all in a compatible format
00:08 mithos28: jamief: What language is that? #lang racket
00:08 jaimef: yeah
00:08 mithos28: function definitions look like (define (f arg …) body)
00:08 mithos28: and function application (f arg)
00:08 jaimef: ahh
00:09 jaimef: does that differ among schemes?
00:09 mithos28: not that I know of?
00:09 neilv: jaimef: no, it is the same in all schemes (some have extensions, but not like that)
00:09 mithos28: s/?//
00:10 neilv: jaimef: common lisp and emacs lisp "defun" looks like what you did
00:10 jaimef: ahh too much elisp
00:11 neilv: also, you have extra parens around the arguments when you apply "find-string", in two places
00:11 aezx: i can print stuff and draw pictures
00:11 neilv: i dont' know what "nil?" is
00:12 neilv: your (display (cons ...)), you probably want "write" instead of "display", or to simply return a value (which the repl will present for you
00:12 neilv: your syntax for "cond" is wrong
00:13 neilv: i highly recommend having the documentation open as you program, and looking up identifiers as you use them
00:13 neilv: i do that throughout the day still
00:14 jaimef: thx
00:20 jaimef: nil? atom was from little schemer
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00:23 neilv: by documentation, i mean the racket documentation
00:23 jaimef: clearly :P
00:23 jaimef: using drracket and it's help
00:23 mithos28: isn't there blue boxes in the upper right now?
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00:29 mithos28: except I don't know how to enable it
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00:31 jaimef: hmm (defun (function arg1 arg2) (body)) is right?
00:31 jaimef: define I mean
00:35 jaimef: ahh I see
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01:14 shriphani_: hi everyone. I recently installed a module using raco on my machine (neil van dyke's permissive html parser). How does the (require (planet ###)) work? Does it search for a local copy of said module and only then fetch? Is there any point to using raco ?
01:38 jaimef: (cond [(empty? (regexp-match pattern line)) (write "wtf")] ) ; yields (delay ...) in repl
01:39 jaimef: just the empty block gets false
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08:32 soegaard: Any git experts present?
08:32 asvil: git user:)
08:33 soegaard: Neil and I have made a math library, which was commited by Neil as one single commit.
08:33 soegaard: Now I have merged the plt/racket repository.
08:34 soegaard: And then made a pull request containing among other things documentation on the number theory functions.
08:34 soegaard: But…
08:35 soegaard: Github puts the entire history of the math library into the pull request - ~ 300 commits.
08:35 soegaard: https://github.com/plt/racket/pull/169
08:38 bremner: soegaard: typically I use "git rebase --interactive" to merge commits
08:38 soegaard: Okay, I'll look it up.
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08:42 bremner: are those commits all "private", i.e. only in your's and neils's repo? then's it's ok to squash them together. If they already exist in the main repo, that's a different problem.
08:45 soegaard: Both Neils and mine are forks of plt/racket. While writing the math library I made pull requests to Neils repository. Now he has merged the results into plt/racket (but without the history).
08:45 bremner: in git, merges always take history. You can change what history exists.
08:46 soegaard: I am not sure how he added the math library.
08:47 soegaard: I better mail him before, I do anything stupid.
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11:13 offby1: ah, git
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11:20 bremner: be nice.
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11:26 asumu: soegaard: I think you may want to make a new branch that tracks the current plt repo and then rebase your new changes onto that, if you can.
11:26 soegaard: asumu: Do you have a pointer to a concrete example?
11:27 soegaard: Also, some of my changes are older than Neils import.
11:27 asumu: Let me see if I can find one...
11:27 asumu: Older is ok as long as it applies cleanly to git HEAD.
11:28 soegaard: I think it does.
11:28 soegaard: But...
11:31 asumu: Well, you can always try on a new branch and see.
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11:32 asumu: What I'd do is make a new branch with Neil's import. Then cherry-pick the commits you want to add on top of that from your working branch (make sure not to delete that branch)
11:32 asumu: And git will tell you if anything fails to apply cleanly.
11:33 asumu: Then you can also do an interactive git rebase if you want to clean up the log after that.
11:33 soegaard: Im my current branch I have fetched and merged all commits from plt/racket.
11:34 soegaard: If I make a new branch I will get a copy.
11:35 soegaard: How do I go back to a previous state?
11:35 asumu: You can git reset back to where the branch and the plt repo are the same, and then pull from the plt repo.
11:35 asumu: (make sure to do this on your new branch and not the one you want to keep history)
11:36 asumu: Or it should be possible to make a new branch just from the plt repo, but I don't remember how off the top of my head.
11:36 soegaard: So make a new branch. Then reset back to    1) before my very first commit, or 2) to before Neils commit ?
11:37 asumu: I think you want before Neil's commit, because all of those commits should already be in the plt repo (but with a re-arranged history)
11:39 soegaard: Okay, I'll give it a try.
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11:54 soegaard: Okay. I have made a new branch. Used git reset --hard ac424a73a5f3fa81d34f11585ff80b63b5cdebb6  (which is just before the Neil's commit)
11:54 soegaard: Then I added plt/racket as the upstream remote.
11:54 soegaard: Then I fetched the changed.
11:55 soegaard: Git now refuses to  merge.
11:55 soegaard: The error: Updating ac424a7..eaf68e6
11:55 soegaard: error: The following untracked working tree files would be overwritten by merge:
11:55 asumu: It's refusing to merge your two branches?
11:55 mithos28: git stash?
11:55 asumu: I think it's best to cherry-pick here rather than try to merge.
11:55 mithos28: and then unstash
11:55 asumu: Oh, merge the changes.
11:55 soegaard: I am not trying to merge my changes yet.
11:56 asumu: That's because the reset --hard didn't remove some extra files.
11:56 asumu: You can manually delete those, or maybe mithos28 's stash will work.
11:56 soegaard: I am trying to get the new branch uptodate with the plt/racket repository.
11:56 mithos28: are you using pull or fetch?
11:56 soegaard: fetch
11:56 soegaard: I'll look up stash.
11:59 soegaard: That worked. My new branch is now exactly as plt/racket.
12:01 soegaard: Now how do I pull in the changes from my original branch?
12:02 asumu: You can git log <original-branch> and see the commit ids for the changes you want. Then git cherry-pick <commit-id>
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12:10 soegaard: Hmm. Wouldn't rebase be better?
12:10 asumu: You could rebase if all of your changes are linear on top of Neil's.
12:10 asumu: If they interleave, you'll need to re-arrange them.
12:14 soegaard: git rebase didn't give any errors
12:14 soegaard: crossing my fingers
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12:23 soegaard: It still says 300 commits - but only 18 files are changed.
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12:25 soegaard: Argh - some of these files weren't changed by me.
12:26 soegaard: I think Neil's repository contains some commits that haven't made it to plt/racket yet.
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12:40 offby1: soegaard: I haven't been following the discussion, but I have one piece of general-purpose advice for those who are confused by commits: run "gitk --all"
12:43 soegaard: offby1: Nice idea. But I get lines like     012-11-17 18:43:19.435 Wish[6233:707] CFURLCopyResourcePropertyForKey failed because it was passed this URL which has no scheme:
12:43 offby1: eww
12:44 mithos28: soegaard: thats normal
12:44 offby1: Windows?
12:44 mithos28: just look if its running
12:44 mithos28: os x
12:44 soegaard: OS X
12:44 mithos28: it doesn't come up in front
12:44 offby1: hm, I run gitk happily on OS X
12:44 offby1: yeah, for some crazy reason you have to Alt-TAB to see it
12:44 soegaard: Ah! It opened a window in the background.
12:45 offby1: ayup
12:45 offby1: anyway, I find it invaluable to see all the commits laid out in a nice graph.
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12:45 offby1: Note that since you're rebasing, you will have some commits whose timestamp, comments, and (maybe) "diffs" are just the same as some _other_ commit.
12:46 offby1: So if you're searching for a commit via (say) its log message, keep in mind that the one you find might not be unique
12:47 soegaard: Github lists all the commits it wants to put in the pull request. I think I just need to find the last time, Neil merged my changes, and then apply all newer commits made by me.
12:48 offby1: sounds reasonable
12:48 offby1: git log neils-branch...my-branch
12:48 offby1: note the three dots
12:49 offby1: or even: git show $(git merge-base neils-branch my-branch)
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13:46 soegaard: It worked! Thanks for the guidance (and patience :-) )
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13:57 offby1: \o/
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14:46 jaimef: https://gist.github.com/4099323 this is an example from rosettacode.org that does not seem to actually work
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15:16 ozzloy: how do i do zero-padding like c's printf("%08x", foo); ?
15:19 offby1: ozzloy: I think there's a "fmt" package in Planet that does all kindsa cool stuff like that
15:20 ozzloy: o cool
15:20 ozzloy: thanks
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16:18 cipher: I'm trying to have a repl execute in a sandbox with a specific namespace... having trouble understanding the documentation enough to do this. anyone have a suggestion?
16:19 cipher: what I'd like to do is consume a file, much like a database, and spawn up a repl that defines a mini DSL that interacts with that data
16:19 cipher: and have the user connect over a tcp port like one of the sandbox examples demonstrates
16:20 cipher: for now ignoring the DSL, I'd love to have a xrepl presented over that tcp port.
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18:48 asumu: With the new math library, there is an actual `prime?` function in Racket.
18:48 asumu: Now I can use that for contract examples. ;)
18:51 neilv: when you do, just don't include timing numbers
18:51 neilv: suddenly racket will look 100 times slower than everything
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18:53 jonrafkind: if you could combine contracts with memoization it might work out
18:53 jonrafkind: i guess in general thats not a bad idea, but it would use up a lot of memory potentially
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20:38 jaimef: https://gist.github.com/4102624 can't see why regexp fails in this function but works outside the function
20:40 jonrafkind: hm strange
20:41 jonrafkind: oh i guess the line is eof
20:42 jonrafkind: why do you do (call-with-input-file) and then (read-line file)
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20:43 jonrafkind: oh the file is a port
20:46 jaimef: yeah I don;t check for eof
20:46 jaimef: I was in an example I found
20:46 jaimef: (unless (eof-object? line)
20:47 shriphani_: hi I have a question about xml/path. Does someone have an example to pull all text out of an html (expressed as xexpr) page?
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20:54 neilv: really, how do i turn off that big arrow in drracket 5.3.1?
20:56 jaimef: works
20:59 neilv: jaimef: http://paste.lisp.org/display/133792
20:59 neilv: that's a little more idiomatic
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21:02 jaimef: neilv: thanks,. and loop is arbitrary?
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21:03 neilv: you can use almost any identifier there instead of "loop" if you want
21:03 jaimef: so instead of unless you use a noop?
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21:06 neilv: there is a recursive procedure (which i call "loop" in the code, but you could call it anything). on each application of the procedure, the procedure first calls "read-line". then there is a "cond" form
21:08 jaimef: understood it's not a keyword
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21:09 jaimef: neilv: thanks for the help.
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21:15 RacketCommitBot: racket/master 4774d7f Robby Findler: made the 'one-line-summary' of the drracket languages be in tooltips,...
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21:16 jaimef: ooh scribble-mode
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21:48 neilv: no wonder we're still seeing exploitable flaws in jpeg libraries. for one thing, the jpeg/exif format has a bunch of computed addresses
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22:05 mithos28: is there any documentation on the new math stuff in the repo currently?
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22:05 mithos28: oh its math not racket/math
22:06 jonrafkind: i wonder what the logic is for putting a libary in 'racket' or make it a top-level collect
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22:58 neilv: jpeg/exif metadata parsing is getting close. http://paste.lisp.org/display/133793
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