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00:27 Nisstyre: didi: ... to make coffee?
00:27 Nisstyre: did you have multiple coffee makers?
00:32 didi: Nisstyre: Nope. ;^) (that's just an exaggeration of my previous fondness for threads)
00:32 Nisstyre: fair nuff
00:33 jrslepak: well, you wouldn't want your whole program to block waiting for coffee
00:33 jrslepak: I guess some people do that in the morning anyway
00:33 Nisstyre: didi: I've used threads in one Racket program, and only to run a sort of REPL while two subprocesses run (a web server and an external process)
00:33 didi: jrslepak: That's what I was going to say. _everything_ has to block until the morning coffee is ready.
00:34 Nisstyre: didi: often times I block until I get certain things done irl
00:34 jrslepak usually just blocks on the toaster oven and then the shower
00:34 jrslepak: well... not even the toaster oven, most days
00:35 Nisstyre: I definitely block while waiting for coffee
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08:19 (topic) samth: Racket: http://racket-lang.org -- RacketCon videos: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQC7pQ_gNllaY_NFQTwHFZTpjeR_PwKmb -- logs at http://racket-lang.org/irc-logs/
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10:06 user--: I'm trying to read in some data into a more usable data structure and then immediately after processing return the user to the REPL with same namespace, bindings, etc (but do so in a self contained executable). I've been looking at racket/sandbox and it looks like what I want, but how can I persist some bindings for a couple of variables to the new sandbox for the user to interact with
10:07 user--: should I wrap my "script" in a module and then execute the module from a separate .rkt that handles setting up the REPL?
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10:11 user--: this looks kind of relevant http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.racket.user/8922
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10:38 user--: sorry i got dc'd.. did anyone happen to respond?
10:38 user--: nope
10:46 soegaard_: user--:  Try the mailing list.
10:56 user--: for my question?
10:56 user--: someone has asked it before?
11:00 soegaard_: Try asking your question on the mailing list. There are more people on the list than in this channel.
11:01 user--: ah ok
11:02 user--: who wrote rudybot? I noticed it uses the racket/sandbox
11:02 user--: I bet whomever wrote it could answer my question easily
11:02 user--: offby1: you there? :P
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12:28 cky: For those of you watching the RacketCon videos, I finally wrote some slides for my talk yesterday: https://speakerdeck.com/u/cky/p/rackona
12:30 soegaard_: cky: Thanks! Without slides the videos are hard to follow.
12:32 asumu: Oh that reminds me, I should put up slides
12:33 samth: i encourage everyone to use speakerdeck -- it's cool!
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12:37 soegaard_: cky: Consider adding a link to the video.
12:38 asumu: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/asumu/slides/racketcon-2012-generics.pdf <-- slides for my talk
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12:42 Gertm: Too much interesting stuff!
12:42 Gertm: Will these talks/slides/videos be centralized somewhere?
12:44 asumu: Probably will be con.racket-lang.org once we collect them.
12:45 Gertm: Awesome!
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13:04 SamB_MacG5 wonders how hard it would be to hook up a validator to meta/web's XHTML output
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13:24 cky: soegaard_: Added link to video (with minute marker).
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14:25 SamB_MacG5 wishes X wasn't so easy to crash
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14:32 __rahul__: n00b here, so forgive me for being obtuse. Trying to understand how the sync procedure works with some toy code:
14:33 __rahul__: (define x 100)  (define p1 (lambda () (set! x (* x x)))) (define p2 (lambda () (set! x (+ x 1))))
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14:33 __rahul__: When i do (sync (thread p1) (thread p2)), x is 10201
14:34 __rahul__: so p2 was executed before p1. What is the execution model?
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14:36 mithos28: how is the hackathon going?
14:36 cky: mithos28: We just had tasty pizza. :-D
14:37 cky: __rahul__: With threads that are not synchronised, what execution model are you thinking of? Things can happen in any order whatsoever. :-)
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14:38 __rahul__: yes i was expecting the result to be random. but it seems the second thread is executed first each time
14:38 __rahul__: maybe i need to do more trials
14:38 friscosam: you shouldn't depend on any ordering
14:39 mithos28: Can I help on anything from remote?
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14:40 cky: mithos28: Ask samth, he has some documentation project going on.
14:41 samth: mithos28, i'm writing up explanations of the Racket homepage examples
14:41 samth: see https://github.com/samth/racket-examples
14:41 samth: pick an example from the home page and start
14:47 samth: mithos28, you now have commit access to that repo -- have fun
14:47 samth: :)
14:47 mithos28: I'm bad at writing documentation
14:47 mithos28: I might just go through TR bug reports and fix the easy ones
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15:00 samth: mithos28, it's easy :0
15:00 samth: but bug fixes are certainly welcome :)
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19:12 mithos28: Is it possible to get a list of the 'marks' on a syntax object?
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22:38 SamB_MacG5 is intrigued by the "Wills and Executors" section title
22:42 SamB_MacG5 is a bit disappointed after reading that section
22:44 jon7: lol
22:45 SamB_MacG5: I was expecting better finalizers, okay?
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22:46 SamB_MacG5: more like in http://www.haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/libraries/base/System-Mem-Weak.html
22:46 rudybot: http://tinyurl.com/25thsv
22:48 SamB_MacG5: hmm, maybe that's not the module I meant
22:50 SamB_MacG5: that's seems to include the functionality of ephemerons, somewhat ...
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