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02:10 neilv: looks like this is going to work. racket control of the vlc video player
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04:52 neilv: i'm making a char->utf-8-byte-string and a byte->utf-8-byte-string . are there standard ones that i'm missing?
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07:56 samth: neilv: isn't the latter just `bytes`?
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08:01 qerub: I've read a little about define-generics. Is it possible to make already defined structs implement a generic interface á la protocols in Clojure?
08:02 samth: qerub: unfortunately not
08:03 qerub: That's a pity. :) Is it something you would like to implement?
08:04 qerub: Would be nice to have something like extendable like protocols or type classes to make functions that can work on many different types.
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08:08 qerub: By the way, has anybody attempted to run the core Racket language on another Scheme implementation (like Kawa for the JVM)?
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08:19 qerub: samth: Where you at CUFP in Copenhagen?
08:20 qerub: Were*
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09:03 noelw: I was there. Pretty sure samth wasn't, unless he was hiding the whole time
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09:16 qerub: noelw: Did you enjoy it? It was my first time at CUFP and I had expected more technical/practical talks and less experience reports.
09:18 noelw: You're not the first I've heard say that.
09:18 noelw: Did you go to any of the tutorials?
09:19 qerub: Oh, damn, I just realized I talked to you after the conference. I was the guy who was scared of Scala's collection library with all the *Like and implicits.
09:20 qerub: So I've told the same thing twice now. :-)
09:21 neilv: i wanted to go, but a foot injury threw off my schedule this summer
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12:15 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] add `slideshow/code-pict' and code transformers - Matthew Flatt
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12:17 stamourv: qerub: Re generics for existing structs: The current implementation doesn't support it, but we have plans to add it. The design we have in mind would also allow you to add methods to built-in types, too.
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13:21 asdf__: i need some help
13:21 asdf__: anyone there?
13:23 asumu: asdf__: ask away
13:23 asumu: (IRC tip: just ask, and wait a bit for an answer)
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13:37 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] define/match: fix docs & more examples - Asumu Takikawa
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14:42 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] Add a Widget Gallery to Racket GUI documentation - Diogo F. S. Ramos
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17:37 pauls_: Is there any way to get backtraces from the command line that are as good as DrRacket's backtraces?
17:38 pauls_: ianjneu and I have tried errortrace, but it doesn't seem to work as well
17:39 stamourv: What did you try?
17:39 pauls_: (require errortrace) and #lang errortrace racket
17:40 pauls_: I'm still getting the classic thing where there are a bunch of `[running body]` locations without any indication what function, just what file.
17:42 stamourv: I don't know what more DrRacket does.
17:43 pauls_: I wanted to try `-l errortrace` from the command line, but that doesn't seem compatible with using `raco test` to run tests.
17:54 asumu: pauls_: if you're using XREPL you can ,errortrace + and then require the test submodule.
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18:08 pcavs: This might be more of a #plai-typed question, but how does one go about constructing a list of tuples, and passing them around and extracting them out?
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18:16 ianjneu: What, like (some-function (list (cons 1 2) (cons 3 4)))?
18:17 ianjneu: (first and rest are used to decompose lists, and car/cdr for conses.
18:17 ianjneu: )
18:17 thebifnif: Hello, does anybody know how to get the plai-typed language working in racket 5.3 ? Is is supposed to work out of the box, or do I need to install a .plt ? If so, where can I find the play-typed.plt ? Thanks
18:20 ianjneu: you need a plt
18:21 ianjneu: I think your class should have a link to it from the course website.
18:22 thebifnif: @ianjneu: thanks. I couldn't find it, I'll have another look
18:24 thebifnif: @ianjneu: The website seems to imply it comes with Racket 5.3 (http://www.cs.brown.edu/courses/csci1730/2012/book/Introduction.html#(part._.The_.Language_of_.This_.Book))
18:25 ianjneu: plai does, not plai-typed
18:26 ianjneu: Are you doing Shriram's online course?
18:26 thebifnif: @ianjneu: the website does not say where I can find the .plt for typed-plai… as far as I can tell
18:26 thebifnif: yes, I am
18:27 ianjneu: I don't have any affiliation with that course or any that uses the PLAI curriculum, so I don't have an official answer, but there are some old course websites from Utah, Northwestern, etc that have links to some version of plai-typed.plt
18:28 thebifnif: ok, I'll check these thanks
18:29 ianjneu: If there are homeworks needing that #lang, likely the course discussion board has better answers.
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18:35 asumu: thebifnif: perhaps you mean this? https://github.com/mflatt/plai-typed
18:35 asumu: I don't actually know what the course staff expect though.
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18:36 asumu: thebifnif: http://www.cs.brown.edu/courses/cs173/2012/plai-typed-2012-09-18.plt
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18:36 asumu: The Google+ page and the course's Piazza page has the answer.
18:37 thebifnif: @asumu: that looks like the ticket, thanks. I don't have access to piazza (I was too late to register). What is the google+ page ?
18:38 asumu: https://plus.google.com/117185293319274359863/posts/9rfginQ3w82
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18:39 thebifnif: thank you
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