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12:55 symbole: Is there a way to get the procedure a symbol refers to without evaluation the symbol? Similar to #' in Common Lisp.
12:56 symbole: without evauluation the symbol*
12:56 symbole: without evaluating the symbol* grr
13:00 jonrafkind: there is a single namespace in racket so a symbol is bound to a function or some other value
13:00 jonrafkind: rudybot, (define x (lambda () 0))
13:00 rudybot: jonrafkind: your sandbox is ready
13:00 rudybot: jonrafkind: Done.
13:00 jonrafkind: rudybot, x
13:00 rudybot: jonrafkind: ; Value: #<procedure:x>
13:00 jonrafkind: did you want to somehow get the function from the actual symbol 'x ?
13:02 symbole: Yes.
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13:02 jonrafkind: you cannot do that without writing your own mapping between symbol and function name
13:03 jonrafkind: there is no direct correlation between a function bound to x and the symbol 'x
13:03 symbole: So if I bind x to a function, I can't get the function x is bound to (unless I evaluate x)?
13:04 jonrafkind: just use x
13:05 symbole: So the reason behind this is in Racket functions names and other identifiers share the same space, so there's no guarantee that a symbol might refer to a function?
13:05 jonrafkind: right
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13:07 symbole: Thanks jonrafkind.
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18:48 tzafrir_laptop: hi, I run drracket 5.2.1 from Debian Wheezy
18:49 tzafrir_laptop: I get some errors I fail to understand
18:51 offby1: so do I :-(
18:52 tzafrir_laptop: ok. my mistake
18:52 tzafrir_laptop: As I was about to ask here, suddenly the problem is gone
18:52 tzafrir_laptop: I guess I should lurk here for good luck
18:54 offby1: Also, when things are working well, don't say so, lest you jinx it.
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19:17 tzafrir_laptop: I try to follow the "quick guide", but "#lang slideshow" gives me an error:
19:18 tzafrir_laptop: module: this function is not defined
19:18 tzafrir_laptop: And I don't get functions such as circle and rectangle
19:20 jonrafkind: do you have the language set as 'use module declared in source' ?
19:20 jonrafkind: or 'use lang line' ? i forget what it says exactly
19:22 tzafrir_laptop: http://docs.racket-lang.org/quick/index.html seems to be exactly the same as my local copy
19:23 jonrafkind: what if you just have #lang slideshow in the file and execute 'racket file.rkt' on the command line, outside of drracket
19:24 tzafrir_laptop: I put it in the definition area, and used "run"
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19:24 bpb: hello
19:24 jonrafkind: i understand, but can you try on the command line?
19:25 bpb: what is the appropriate way to suggest a change to one of the web pages on docs.racket-lang.org ?
19:26 bpb: for example, http://docs.racket-lang.org/continue/index.html in Section 14 "A Persistent Model" the first definition of 'blog' should include the #:prefab modifier
19:27 bpb: minor change that would help someone following the tutorial
19:27 tzafrir_laptop: jonrafkind, works on the command-line. If I add a '(circle 10)' , get '#<pict>' on the terminal
19:27 jonrafkind: bpb, either submit a bug report on bugs.racket-lang.org, or send an email to jay
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19:34 bpb: jonrafkind: thanks
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19:35 tzafrir_laptop: OK. I missed the part of resseting the language
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