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13:29 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] Post-release version for the v5.3 release - Ryan Culpepper
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16:04 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] [honu] ignore parse-error tokens when building the first syntax tree - Jon Rafkind
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16:50 ydev: Is there a IRC library in racket ?
16:50 offby1: Not that I know of.
16:51 offby1: A sufficiently-motivated person could perhaps extract the beginnings of one from rudybot
16:51 offby1: rudybot: source
16:51 rudybot: *offby1: git clone git://github.com/offby1/rudybot.git
16:53 ydev: Thanks!
16:53 jonrafkind: i have some irc code laying around
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16:55 ydev: Hey jonrafkind could you point it to me
16:55 jonrafkind: i should throw it up on github i guess
16:58 ydev: oh that will be nice
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17:28 Nisstyre: ydev: here's a good start http://blog.initprogram.com/2010/10/14/a-quick-basic-primer-on-the-irc-protocol/
17:28 rudybot: http://tinyurl.com/6s3apdn
17:31 ydev: Thanks Nisstyre!
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17:53 Cryovat: I have a silly question
17:54 stamourv: Ask away. :)
17:54 Cryovat: I finally found some time to sit down with my nascent game project
17:54 Cryovat: Generally, what I was wondering was if 2htdp/universe is a good foundation from a performance perspective
17:55 samth: Cryovat: mostly no
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17:55 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] change db collect to be part of "mz" ("textual") distribution - Ryan Culpepper
17:55 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] increase drdr timeout for template stress test - Ryan Culpepper
17:55 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] syntax/parse: update phase discussion with begin-for-syntax - Ryan Culpepper
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17:55 samth: but it's probably good for prototyping
17:55 Cryovat: I'm kind of torn, at first look it looks like a nice way to get a head start
17:55 stamourv: Cryovat: I wouldn't worry about performance until it becomes a problem.
17:56 Cryovat: Does it employ OpenGL?
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17:58 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] fix mzlib contract name test - Matthew Flatt
17:58 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] fix submodule re-`expand' problem - Matthew Flatt
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17:59 jhemann_: I think I need nested editors for my application, but unfortunately that entails that on-event is called for all the nested editors. I'd appreciate direction on the way to use nested editors that avoids this.
17:59 samth: jhemann_: i would ask about that on the mailing list
17:59 samth: unless asumu knows the answer
18:00 samth: Cryovat: no, it doesn't
18:01 asumu: jhemann_: does editor-snip% work for you?
18:02 asumu: Doesn't jay have an OpenGL world?
18:02 jhemann_: asumu, I'm using edtor-snips.
18:02 samth: asumu: yes, he does
18:02 Cryovat: There's one on PLaneT
18:03 Cryovat: But looks like it's two years old
18:03 samth: Cryovat: probably you'd have better luck looking here: https://github.com/get-bonus/get-bonus
18:04 asumu: jhemann_: are you saying you don't want on-event to be called on snip editors?
18:04 Cryovat: He linked me to that last time I asked around here, I think that's probably the best starting point
18:04 Cryovat: Thanks :)
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18:05 jhemann_: so I've got a text containnig an editor-snip whose editor is another text which contains, among other things, another editor snip .. evenntually terminating in say, a string snip
18:09 jhemann_: and my text overrides on-event. But when I click, it calls the on-event in all of the nested texts
18:10 jhemann_: instead of just the (expected?) innermost one.
18:13 asumu: jhemann_: I think you may need to use set-flags to unset the 'handles-events flag on snips that you don't want to handle events.
18:14 asumu: Since these snips aren't actually inheriting from each other, I don't think it knows what the "innermost" snip is.
18:14 asumu: Though I could be wrong.
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18:16 jhemann_: asumu. hm. well, I don't know ahead of time which one I want to handle events and which ones not. Its whichever one gets clicked
18:16 Cryovat: Ah, damn
18:16 Cryovat: Seems like get-bonus is dependant on Cocoa
18:17 Cryovat: Which is a slight challenge when running Windows
18:19 asumu: jhemann_: Oh, hmm, I'm not sure then. Probably the mailing list is the right place to ask then.
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18:20 jhemann_: hm. okay
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18:22 asumu: Cryovat: there is also https://github.com/jeapostrophe/gl-world but I think that's the same as the planet package.
18:23 Cryovat: Yeah, looks like it
18:23 Cryovat: Looking at his Github profile, I envy his productivity
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18:40 jhemann_: asumu. My solution ended up being to use a clickback.
18:42 asumu: jhemann_: oh, good to know. On which class?
18:42 jhemann_: my text class
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18:50 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] generalize `xml/plist' to read/write any plist value - Matthew Flatt
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18:50 pantsd_work: eli: random qq: does racket rewrite non-tail recurisve calls of the form (+ k (f j)) to use an accumulator? I said no but aalix disagreed
18:51 samth: pantsd_work: no, racket won't automatically make your program tail recursive
18:51 pantsd_work: w00t I win
18:51 pantsd_work: or well sort of
18:52 pantsd_work: Man I want to dig up the hobo macro I tried to write to do that for the one special case (which ended up breaking down trying to parse cond pandas)
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19:13 asumu: Oh, it looks like Project Euler added Racket at some point.
19:13 asumu: http://projecteuler.net
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19:21 jonrafkind: maybe you could link to something more relevant
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19:26 asumu: http://projecteuler.net/language=Racket
19:28 jonrafkind: it doesnt look like the 'language' parameter has any effect
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19:42 asumu: stchang: in #lang lazy, is 'take' supposed to have its argument order reversed?
19:42 asumu: (and if so, should that be documented?)
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21:45 Guest12098: Hey guys, anyone familiar with Morozan's Alien Attack game?
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22:14 asumu: Guest12098: No, why?
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22:23 Guest12098: I'm stuck on an issue I have with the game. I have the SC posted online here: http://pastebin.com/dG9bKCPh if I can get help with that, it's be appreciated.
22:23 Guest12098: full SC at http://www.blaze9.com/gamegroup2.rkt (with images)
22:25 offby1: ooh, a game in racket?
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22:26 Guest12098: Yeah, our professor gave a speech at "racketcon" last year on the game.
22:27 Guest12098: Professor Marco Morazan.
22:30 offby1: oh that's a familiar name.
22:31 Guest12098: Yup. He's a good guy, but this project is really something else. Pretty difficult to finish.
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22:52 eli: asumu: Intended, should change, didn't -- yet -- because it can cause breakage.
22:53 eli: It was originally following haskell's order, which I used in my class, and that was before we adopted srfi-1's order.
22:53 eli: (Which is less natural, but attempts to be similar to `list-ref' etc.)
22:57 asumu: eli: ah, so eventually it'll be (take lst n)? ISTR that coming up on the mailing list, now that you mention it.
22:57 asumu: (and yeah, the other order is more natural, but ah well)
23:01 eli: asumu: Yes, hopefully.  I leave it up to stchang to move things...
23:02 rudybot: That's so interesting
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