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00:35 MarkSoric: Hey guys. Just wondering if someone might be able to give me a hand. Trying my best to implement lists in scheme as structures. I've define a new struct, mylist as (define-struct my list (head tail)). Problem is when I try and write my version of append, I end up getting something that's not "flat" for lack of a better word...
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01:58 neilv: i am trying to use contracts now, because my new embedded documentation thing leverages info from contracts
02:01 neilv: so far, not a super huge fan of contracts in practice. i think i'll keep them in this one package, but not use them when i convert my other packages to the new doc thing
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04:18 ara_: Hello all. I just thought that if anyone is interested in xmms2, they may like to know I'm writing bindings for libxmmsclient.
04:18 ara_: https://github.com/ararara/racket-libxmmsclient
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10:17 samth: eli: ping
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11:13 RacketCommitBot: [racket] plt pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/06oBsw
11:13 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] Fixing another problem discover because of Galler - Jay McCarthy
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11:54 stamourv: eli: pong
11:54 stamourv: (but heading out soon, will be back in an hour)
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11:58 eli: stamourv: When you wrote that mini-project list, you used some tool for shared editing -- do you remember what it was?
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12:09 Mordae: Hi!
12:12 Mordae: I am having this issue with stateless servlets... I wish to use (dispatch-rules), but I am getting "unsafe context" exception.
12:12 Mordae: Any ideas?
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12:26 eli: samth: ping
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12:40 chandler: jonrafkind: I think I've asked this before, but is there any way we could get launchers in the racket PPA package, or maybe even in the standard distribution?
12:41 jonrafkind: you mean like menu items?
12:41 chandler: Yeah. I'm not sure what the correct term is.
12:42 jonrafkind: supposedly eli is going to do that in the standard distribution
12:42 jonrafkind: i was hoping to piggy back on that
12:42 jonrafkind: if it takes too much longer maybe ill just do it for the ppa
12:42 eli: You should.
12:42 jonrafkind: alright
12:43 eli: I meant should piggyback, not just do it for your ppa.
12:43 eli: s/should/you should/
12:47 jonrafkind: o
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12:48 eli: jonrafkind: "o"?
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13:05 eli: samth: ping
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14:29 stamourv: eli: I remember that, but not what it was. It was either samth's or sstrickl's idea.
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14:35 jonrafkind: under what circumstances would the 'id' syntax class not match an identifier?
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14:47 samth: stamourv, eli: didn't we just use the wiki?
14:47 samth: eli: pong
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15:01 stamourv: samth: Nah, we had some fancy web-based thingy, with colors for each author, or something.
15:01 samth: oh that
15:01 stamourv: Yeah, remember what it was?
15:02 samth: http://piratepad.net/front-page/
15:02 samth: or some other etherpad variant
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15:03 stamourv: piratepad sounds about right, I have it in my history.
15:12 eli: stamourv, samth: ok.  (I thought that there were some cursor indicators there that showed where each player is.)
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15:24 eli: samth: 9210 should be closed as a duplicate of 11223 (chronology reversed, but the latter has a pointer to a discussion with the relevant information).
15:29 samth: eli: that would be nice, but i don't think that it has that feature
15:30 eli: samth: you mean the pad thing?
15:30 samth: eli: yes
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15:38 samth: stamourv: did you get a chance to look at that canadian bug report?
15:38 samth: stamourv: 9470
15:40 stamourv: samth: Had a look at it, but I don't have a setup to try it out.
15:40 samth: ah
15:41 samth: no canadian keyboard, eh?
15:41 stamourv: (As in, I have no idea how to create a FR-ca setup.)
15:41 samth chuckles
15:41 stamourv: I've used EN-us for the last 15 years.
15:41 samth: he had an en-ca setup
15:41 stamourv: Did he?
15:41 samth was chuckling at my joke
15:41 samth: "I am using Language English (Canada) with the french canadian keyboard"
15:42 stamourv: Oh.
15:42 stamourv: Well, the only difference the keyboard has is the stickers on the keys.
15:42 stamourv: If he uses EN-ca, then the keyboard has no impact.
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17:48 neilv: was briefly surprised that my root filesystem was full. til i noticed that i have 10 different racket source trees and matching install trees on /usr/local
17:49 jonrafkind: how big is a single tree + install?
17:51 neilv: 346880	/usr/local/racket-5.2.1
17:51 neilv: 185724	/usr/local/src/racket-5.2.1
17:51 neilv: so around half a GB
17:53 jonrafkind: du -h
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17:57 samth: eli: can you recategorize this bug as scribble, assigned to mflatt: http://bugs.racket-lang.org/query/?cmd=view%20audit-trail&database=default&pr=9892
17:57 rudybot: http://tinyurl.com/7q9yhtj
17:57 samth: eli: i can't do it, because the attachment is too big for gnatsweb
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17:57 neilv: some of my clients are very branch- and merging-oriented, with many versions in deployment. so i might have to reinstall some racket versions later
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18:26 swartzcr: is there a way to do in-line concatinaton if I'm outputting using prett-display?
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18:36 offby1: swartzcr: can you give an example?
18:38 swartzcr: I have a meta-evaluator with (pretty-display output) as the output, and I'd like to have it append something to that line, but since output could be anything I can't string-append and additional pretty-displays spawn new lines
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18:53 swartzcr: also... I;m having trouble adding elements to lists. If I have (1 1 1) and (set-car! (cdddr a) '3) I get an error, but if I (set-cdr! (cdddr a) '3) I get (1 1 1 . 3) not (1 1 1 3)
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19:01 swartzcr: n
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19:07 offby1: o
19:08 offby1: I suspect you can't do that
19:08 offby1: rudybot: (append ' (1 1 1) '(3))
19:08 rudybot: *offby1: your sandbox is ready
19:08 rudybot: *offby1: ; Value: (1 1 1 3)
19:08 offby1: that's how I'd do it
19:09 swartzcr: hm, a shame, is there a way to convert output to a string then string-append before display or something?
19:09 offby1: sure
19:09 offby1: rudybot: eval 3
19:09 rudybot: *offby1: ; Value: 3
19:09 offby1: rudybot: eval (format "~a" 3)
19:09 rudybot: *offby1: ; Value: "3"
19:10 swartzcr: rudybot: (set! a '(1 1 1))
19:10 rudybot: swartzcr: your sandbox is ready
19:10 rudybot: swartzcr: error: set!: cannot set variable before its definition: a in module: 'program
19:11 swartzcr: rudybot: (append a '(3))
19:11 rudybot: swartzcr: error: reference to an identifier before its definition: a in module: 'program
19:11 swartzcr: ah okay, (set! a (append a '(3)))
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19:15 offby1: gotta "define" it before you "set!" it
19:17 swartzcr: oh yeah, well it works in local racket :P (and it's better to keep my slip-ups private)
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