01:03 eli: ohwow: is this you: https://twitter.com/#!/ohw0w ?
01:05 ohwow: yes
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01:06 ohwow: are you in charge of racketlang's twitter feed, eli?
01:07 eli: ohwow: Not really, sstrickl took over to make it more meaningful than commit messages.
01:08 eli: So, what's with the "scary jew" thing?
01:09 ohwow: ?
01:09 ohwow: Ah, it's a pun; wordplay
01:10 ohwow: it's actually "scary life" or "scary living"
01:10 eli: :)  That's roughly how google translated it...
01:10 ohwow: hehe
01:10 eli: (I just happened to look at that one, usually I ignore it...)
01:11 ohwow: I don't take Twitter (or generaly everything which allows me to post things under 140 characters) seriously ;]
01:12 eli: Exactly why I ignore it...
01:12 ohwow: heh
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02:30 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] add strictness tests for lazy - Stephen Chang
02:30 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] Merge branch 'master' of pltgit:plt - Stephen Chang
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02:30 CIA-48: racket: Stephen Chang master * r65dbdaf / collects/tests/lazy/lang.rkt : add strictness tests for lazy - http://git.io/f0b1wQ
02:32 CIA-48: racket: Stephen Chang master * r3a44c34 / (1612 files in 186 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of pltgit:plt - http://git.io/t7k4AQ
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03:50 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] New Racket version 5.1.3.7. - Eli Barzilay
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04:37 ohwow: https://github.com/veer-public/OAuth-2.0 hm this looks interesting and i havent managed to find oauth module on planet
04:38 noelw: Yeah. Development is quite active as well
04:38 ohwow: oh it's new
04:38 ohwow: well i hope it become avaliabe in a week or so
04:40 noelw: I think it is pretty usable right now. Not that I've used it.
04:40 ohwow: i'll check it out & fork when i get home tbh
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11:24 stamourv: What's this CIA-48 thing, it seems to just echo the github bot.
11:27 ohwow: hm
11:27 ohwow: never saw it
11:28 stamourv: It was here ~7 hours ago.
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11:55 ohwow: Hm
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12:56 ohwow: dammit
12:56 ohwow: turns out i cant use twitter with that OAuth-2 lib
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12:56 ohwow: cos twitter support only oath-1
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13:31 jeapostrophe: eli: can you find out what function a key calls in emacs?
13:32 jeapostrophe: I want to rebind what C-x # does to s-l
13:32 jeapostrophe: But I don't know the function to call
13:32 stamourv: jeapostrophe: C-h c
13:33 jeapostrophe: Nice!
13:33 jeapostrophe: Thanks
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13:34 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] Fixed a bug where predicates would sometimes fail to match 0.0 - lvilnis
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13:34 CIA-48: racket: lvilnis master * r80ece90 / collects/typed-racket/types/numeric-tower.rkt : Fixed a bug where predicates would sometimes fail to match 0.0 - http://git.io/9HzQQw
13:38 jonrafkind: cia??
13:38 jonrafkind: who set that up?
13:39 stamourv: No idea.
13:39 stamourv: It's affiliated with http://www.atheme.org/
13:39 jonrafkind: well yes.. i have my own cia bots so I know how it works
13:39 stamourv: Ah, ok.
13:39 jonrafkind: its ok to have cia monitoring racket but we don't need two commit bots in this channel
13:40 stamourv: That was the first time I saw something like that.
13:41 jonrafkind: well fwiw I like cia's commit styl better than githubs. the "plt pushed 1 new commit" is overly verbose
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13:45 ohwow: So I wanted to write a simple webcam app but I stumbled upon some problems. For example, if I am using some C library for accessing webcam data, it surely stores images in it's own format. That means that I would have to convert it to Racket's preferable image-snip% image format
13:45 ohwow: and I am not sure how can I do that
13:46 ohwow: bitmap% rather
13:46 ohwow: i think
13:46 jonrafkind: i think theres set-argb-pixels
13:47 ohwow: ok so I would have to make that call every frame?
13:48 ohwow: wouldn't that be slow?
13:50 ohwow: uh plus there are no opencv wrappers so i guess i would have to write my own
13:50 ohwow: it's a pain in the ass working with C/C++ code in Windows
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15:20 jonrafkind: can I attach struct-properties to anything, such as a class instance?
15:22 samth: jonrafkind: there's a class form for adding properties
15:22 jonrafkind: ooh where
15:24 jonrafkind: actually maybe i could just have all my honu classes implement some honu-interface for now, i just need to tell if a given object is a class basically
15:24 jonrafkind: well i suppose I could just do (class? x) anyway
15:24 jonrafkind: hm or something like that
15:25 jonrafkind: object? I suppose
15:26 jeapostrophe: stamourv: do you know the emacs function to call to drop some text at the cursor?
15:27 jeapostrophe: naturally "insert"
15:27 stamourv: jeapostrophe: Sounds right.
15:29 ohwow: Today I learned that the authors of HtDP made a 666-page book on how to design classes.
15:30 ohwow: Yep, thats right 666 pages
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15:43 eli: jonrafkind: I killed it.
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15:43 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] don't show multiple (identical) tooltips at the same place - Robby Findler
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15:44 jonrafkind: eli, just the bot right? cia is still monitoring racket?
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15:45 eli: jonrafkind: It is, but it looks much lamer than I thought.
15:45 jonrafkind: what did you expect it to do
15:46 eli: What *does* it do?
15:47 eli: jonrafkind: ?
15:47 jonrafkind: http://cia.vc/stats/project/racket makes a publicaly visiable page for all the commit history
15:47 jonrafkind: and also if you have enough commits you show up on the front page of cia.vc
15:47 jonrafkind: so its sort of a popularity contest
15:47 eli: jonrafkind: So in that case the answer is "almost nothing"...
15:47 jonrafkind: a side thing is all commits from the cia bot go to #commits which a handful of people monitor
15:47 jonrafkind: it does nothing in the same sense that 'facebook likes' are nothing
15:48 eli: And I thought that it did something...
15:48 jonrafkind: in that it promotes racket, nothing more
15:48 jonrafkind: and a lot of people care about cia
15:48 eli: But a facebook page would have people looko at it, why would anyone go there?
15:48 eli: (to the cia pages)
15:48 jonrafkind: its a known place to see the activity of a project
15:48 jonrafkind: i check it for various projects (kde, gnome, llvm)
15:49 eli: Why would you care how much activity these projects have?
15:49 jonrafkind: whats the point of life?
15:49 eli: They're clearly alive, so what more does cia give you?
15:49 ohwow: jonrafkind: there are many opinions on that problem
15:50 ohwow: eli: it's a nice shiny thing ;]
15:50 jonrafkind: i don't have a concrete answer other than to say i find it interesting to see the activity on those projects
15:50 eli: ohwow: But it's not even shiny -- there's some surprisingly small care to design that I see.
15:51 eli: jonrafkind: I'm not flaming, BTW, I just really don't see the point.
15:51 eli: (Much more than not seeing the point of FB.)
15:51 jonrafkind: yea i know
15:51 jonrafkind: its one of those things..
15:51 jonrafkind: i would not invest any time in facebook likes, but i can see john's point about it
15:51 eli: Same goes for that #commits thing.
15:51 jonrafkind: but all this is free.. and you already have it set up..
15:51 ohwow: I dont think anyone seriously monitor #commits
15:52 eli: Do you really care that some gnome part had its latvian translation updated?
15:52 jonrafkind: sometimes i look at #commits
15:52 ohwow: come on who wants to see every commit of every project?
15:52 jonrafkind: you can watch literal productivity of humanity.. isn't that neat??
15:53 jonrafkind: eli, i dunno, do you care when your cousin gets an A on their report card?
15:53 jonrafkind: they exist and their progress has no bearing on your life.. so whats the point
15:53 eli: jonrafkind: Not really, but I'd at least have a reason to care.
15:53 eli: jonrafkind: In any case, if having a CIA page setup makes you happy, and if there's nothing else that could be done with it, then I'm obviously happy with it...
15:53 jonrafkind: i think i had one before though.. but it died somehow
15:54 jonrafkind: mabye when we moved to git
15:54 eli: Yeah, I think it was plt-scheme still.
15:54 jonrafkind: oh yea
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15:57 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] missed a point when the error highlights should be cleared out - Robby Findler
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16:00 eli: jonrafkind: Actually, it would be nice if it could change the nick to something you choose -- I like that it doesn't leave the room.  (And customizing the message, although the language for that seems horrible.)
16:01 jonrafkind: all true.. i can ask the cia people if theres a way to force a certain nick
16:01 eli: ok
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16:38 bremner: ambitious commit
16:39 jonrafkind: i feel smarter already
16:39 bremner: me two
16:39 jonrafkind: LOOOOOOOOOOOL
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19:07 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] `get-diplay-size' and `get-display-left-top-inset' use #f for failure - Matthew Flatt
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21:51 sir_lewk: I'm thinking that this: (regexp-match? #px"[:alphanum:]+\\s+" "foobar   ") should return true.  where am I going wrong here?
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22:14 jamessan: missing a set of [] ?
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22:28 sir_lewk: yup
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