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01:50 MaXim_: hi all, quick question
01:50 mithos28: MaXim: ask away
01:51 MaXim_: i've got two lists, '(1 2 3 4) and '(4 5 6 7)
01:51 MaXim_: i would like to replace the contents of the first lists with the 2nd
01:51 MaXim_: so i wrote something like this
01:52 MaXim_: (map (lambda (x) (list-ref (list 1 2 3 4) (x))) (list 4 5 6 7))
01:52 MaXim_: doesnt seem to work :(
01:52 mithos28: what should the output be?
01:52 MaXim_: (4 5 6 7)
01:52 MaXim_: but i just get some error
01:53 MaXim_: procedure application: expected procedure, given: 1 (no arguments)
01:53 mithos28: That is because you have (x).
01:54 MaXim_: what should it be
01:54 mithos28: Which means apply the value x to zero arguments.
01:54 MaXim_: ah right
01:54 MaXim_: i was using just x before
01:54 MaXim_: but that wasnt working either
01:54 MaXim_: mcar: expects argument of type <mutable-pair>; given ()
01:54 mithos28: In racket you cannot have extraneous parentheses as in other languages
01:55 MaXim_: yea im new to this
01:55 mithos28: What language are you working in? #lang ????. I ask because I see the mcar.
01:55 MaXim_: ah right, sorry
01:56 MaXim_: R5RS
01:56 MaXim_: (map (lambda (x) (list-ref (list 1 2 3 4) x)) (list 4 5 6 7)) gives the mcar error
01:56 MaXim_: mcar is equivalent to map in r5rs?
01:57 mithos28: no.
01:57 MaXim_: gotcha
01:58 mithos28: Going back to the drawing board, why do you want to replace the first list with the values of the second list instead of using the second list?
01:59 MaXim_: it's part of something bigger
01:59 MaXim_: where both of those lists will be some argument
02:00 mithos28: and why cannot you use the second list twice?
02:00 MaXim_: the original point is for me to divide a list that represents a square array
02:00 MaXim_: into its rows
02:01 MaXim_: so for example, (1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9) -> ((1 2 3) (4 5 6) (7 8 9))
02:01 MaXim_: so what i first did was generate a list of indices, ((0 1 2) (3 4 5) (6 7 8))
02:02 MaXim_: then i intended to map the original list to it
02:02 mithos28: ah ok now I see
02:02 MaXim_: yeh
02:02 MaXim_: im not even sure if that's the right way about it
02:03 MaXim_: but i think it makes enough sense as a plan
02:03 mithos28: So if instead your inputs were (list 2 3 1 4) and (list 4 5 6 7) what would the output be?
02:04 MaXim_: i don't think that would work
02:04 MaXim_: er wait nvm
02:04 MaXim_: yea it wouldnt
02:04 MaXim_: the 1st list would need to contain only 0-3 since the 2nd list is only 4 long
02:05 mithos28: ok say the first list was (list 1 2 0 3)
02:05 MaXim_: yea
02:05 MaXim_: so then the result would be (5 6 4 7)
02:05 mithos28: ok. Good I think I know what the function you are trying to write is.
02:06 MaXim_: was i on the right track?
02:06 mithos28: so you are close with: (map (lambda (x) (list-ref (list 1 2 3 4) x)) (list 4 5 6 7))
02:06 MaXim_: cool
02:06 MaXim_: but what is a mutable pair :P
02:07 ohwow: a mutable pair is (cons a b) when you can modify a and b using set-car! and set-cdr!
02:07 MaXim_: ah
02:07 mithos28: unless you have a good reason to use r5rs, I would use #lang racket. And if you are just learning racket #lang htdp/isl might work aswell
02:07 ohwow: rudybot: eval (define x (cons 1 2))
02:07 rudybot: ohwow: your sandbox is ready
02:07 rudybot: ohwow: Done.
02:07 MaXim_: nah i have to use r5rs
02:07 MaXim_: this is homework :P
02:08 ohwow: rudybot: eval (define x (mcons 1 2))
02:08 rudybot: ohwow: Done.
02:08 ohwow: rudybot: eval x
02:08 MaXim_: hmm
02:08 rudybot: ohwow: ; Value: {1 . 2}
02:08 MaXim_: i think i know what that means then
02:08 MaXim_: list-ref only returns one value
02:08 ohwow: rudybot: eval (set-cdr! x x)
02:08 rudybot: ohwow: error: reference to an identifier before its definition: set-cdr! in module: 'program
02:08 MaXim_: but map wants a cons?
02:08 ohwow: mm
02:08 mithos28: no it should work with mcons.
02:08 MaXim_: ok
02:10 mithos28: In your example which list is the indices that you want to extract and what list are you trying to extract from
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02:28 MaXim_: woops, dropped off the network without realising
02:28 MaXim_: turns out the code i wrote was correct, but i was using the wrong indices
02:29 MaXim_: so it was giving me the mcons error lol
02:29 MaXim_: > (map (lambda (x) (list-ref (list 4 3 2 1) x)) (list 0 1 2 3))
02:30 MaXim_: (4 3 2 1)
02:30 MaXim_: thanks for the help guys
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03:33 MaXim_: is there some form of assertion i can use in R5RS?
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07:27 noel_w: It's been too long since I wrote some Racket code
07:27 noel_w: I really should organise and release my numeric code
07:30 noel_w: The vector library is odd, in that it works with values and not indices
07:30 noel_w: This is contrary, I postulate, to how most people use vectors
07:31 noel_w: (Don't worry. This comment isn't supposed to be comprehensible.)
07:40 MaXim_: hopefully trivial question here
07:41 MaXim_: how would i go about adding up the contents of each sublist like so: '((1 2 3) (4 5 6) (7 8 9))
07:41 MaXim_: but the number of sublists is arbitary
07:41 MaXim_: so i wouldn't know how many foldrs i need
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07:49 noel_w: MaXim_ (lambda (lst) (apply + lst)) will sum a list
07:49 noel_w: Just use that recursively to sum up whatever you need
07:50 noel_w: map or fold as necessary
07:50 MaXim_: hm ok thanks, i'll try that
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07:51 haruki_zaemon: Howdy
07:52 MaXim_: hello
07:52 haruki_zaemon: I'm looking for a scheme to put into production
07:52 haruki_zaemon: I started looking into JVM based but they all seem less than ideal
07:52 noel_w: Hi.
07:52 noel_w: We use Racket in production
07:52 haruki_zaemon: now I'm looking into racket, chicken… right
07:53 haruki_zaemon: that's what I was hoping to hear
07:53 haruki_zaemon: fantastic
07:53 noel_w: (For the JVM I'd use a language designed for it -- Clojure or Scala are my favs)
07:53 haruki_zaemon: noel_w yeah I've done a bit of Clojure but TBH I'm not a huge fan
07:54 haruki_zaemon: I've used and loved Scheme for longer than I'd care to remember
07:54 haruki_zaemon: but looking to put something actually into production for the first time
07:55 dsp_: what sort of software?
07:57 haruki_zaemon: dsp_ purely server-side stuff for mobile clients
08:02 haruki_zaemon: dsp_ Was that too vague?
08:02 dsp_: nah, sorry, was getting a cup of tea :p
08:02 dsp_: that's precisely what i'm using racket for, too
08:02 haruki_zaemon: hehe ok
08:02 haruki_zaemon: ahh cool!
08:02 haruki_zaemon: Where/how are you hosting it?
08:04 dsp_: AWS, for now. limited field trial
08:05 haruki_zaemon: ok… I saw someone get Haskell (my other favourite) up and running on Heroku which I thought was interesting
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09:12 dnolen: if I want to use Racket for some r6rs hacking, how can I require SRFIs ?
09:14 noel_w: does the standard r6rs library import work (i've never used r6rs, but racket supports it)
09:16 dnolen: but how to import an srfi?
09:18 dnolen: ok (import … (srfi :n)) seems to work
09:30 MaXim_: how would i go about determining if all the elements inside a list are identical?
09:30 MaXim_: ive got a foreach and inside that a lambda that has an equal? test
09:31 MaXim_: but not too sure how to return a #t or #f to the outside
09:34 noel_w: andmap
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09:42 MaXim_: hmm
09:42 MaXim_: what is the difference between andmap and map?
09:42 MaXim_: for my purposes that is
09:43 noel_w: and map is true if the predicate applies to every element of the list
09:43 noel_w: take the first member of the list
09:43 MaXim_: ahh
09:43 MaXim_: cheers bro
09:43 noel_w: np
09:43 MaXim_: phew
09:44 MaXim_: hopefully i can get the hang of this
09:44 MaXim_: never really concerned my self with functional programming before
09:45 noel_w: It certainly takes a while to get to grips with
09:45 noel_w: Like everyone, once you understand it, it seems easy
09:45 noel_w: s/everyone/everything
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09:49 MaXim_: yea
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09:50 MaXim_: I had absolutely no idea what i was doing 24 hours ago :P
09:50 MaXim_: now I'm only a tad handicapped
09:51 noel_w: You're doing well then!
10:06 haruki_zaemon: When I run racket against any of my code I get: "#lang not enabled in the current context"
10:06 haruki_zaemon: any clues?
10:07 ohwow: do you just type "#lang something" in the REPL?
10:08 noel_w: How are you running your code?
10:08 noel_w: What does the code contain?
10:08 noel_w: In particular, does the file start with #lang racket/base or equivalent?
10:10 haruki_zaemon: AHH it seems if I use racket -f … it works. Simply piping from STDIN operates as if in REPL mode
10:11 haruki_zaemon: sorry for the newbie questions.. just started with Racket today
10:11 haruki_zaemon: have used MIT Scheme for years for algorithmic stuff but actually want to put something into the real world now
10:15 ohwow: Yeah #lang racket basically expands to (module <id> racket ...)
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10:15 MaXim_: like #lang racket/typed ?
10:16 MaXim_: oh
10:16 MaXim_: typed/racket
10:16 noel_w: Yeah. #lang blah is the preferred form
10:16 noel_w: (module name blah …) is legacy
10:16 noel_w: (Kinda.)
10:17 noel_w: module has a few uses if you're expanding code
10:17 haruki_zaemon: right so the module form works in the REPL
10:17 haruki_zaemon: but #lang doesn't
10:17 noel_w: Yeah… but you don't want to develop that way
10:17 noel_w: You can enter a module
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10:17 noel_w: (enter! "my-file.rkt")
10:17 noel_w: Then all of the modules' bindings will be visible to you
10:18 haruki_zaemon: really all I was trying to do was define a module :)
10:18 MaXim_: lol
10:18 haruki_zaemon: I guess I don't understand it
10:18 MaXim_: ah
10:18 haruki_zaemon: heh
10:18 samth: haruki_zaemon: #lang "works" at the repl, but it waits until it reaches EOF to end the module
10:18 samth: so Ctrl-D will end the module
10:18 haruki_zaemon: but I'm reading the doc so I'll get it soon enough
10:18 haruki_zaemon: samth right
10:18 noel_w: Ok. My workflow is this:
10:19 noel_w: write code in files
10:19 noel_w: files start with #lang whatever
10:19 haruki_zaemon: is there a way to enable readline support in the REPL?
10:19 noel_w: Yeah.
10:19 samth: haruki_zaemon: (require readline)
10:19 haruki_zaemon: ahh LOL
10:19 samth: put that in your ~/.racketrc
10:19 haruki_zaemon: sweet!
10:19 haruki_zaemon: done!
10:19 noel_w: To mess around with modules, load the repl (i.e. run racket)
10:19 noel_w: (enter! "filename.rkt") to mess around w/ module
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10:20 noel_w: Preferably just write tests.
10:20 noel_w: Tests are permanent
10:20 MaXim_: was trying to install MIT scheme from ports
10:20 samth: (oh, and listen to noel_w -- he's a veteran Racket hacker)
10:20 MaXim_: but it complains about being i386 only
10:20 haruki_zaemon: hehe
10:20 haruki_zaemon: MaXim_ ports on what OS?
10:20 MaXim_: FreeBSD
10:20 haruki_zaemon: Ahh
10:20 haruki_zaemon: I haven't run a linux distro in anger for years now
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10:21 MaXim_: debian is the only one I use regularly
10:21 haruki_zaemon: noel_w so files define modules?
10:21 haruki_zaemon: anyway I'll keep reading
10:21 noel_w: If a file begins with #lang it defines a module with the name of the file
10:22 noel_w: So one module per module
10:22 noel_w: If you want to break this rule you can use (module ...)
10:22 noel_w: Some perverse people feel the need to do this
10:22 haruki_zaemon: right, I'm happy to stick with convention
10:23 haruki_zaemon: I presume everyone just uses emacs? ;-)
10:23 dsp_: i use vim, but have recently discovered SLIME
10:23 noel_w: Emacs or DrRacket, I think
10:23 dsp_: which seems quite useful
10:24 MaXim_: slime yea that's a good one
10:24 MaXim_: vim has the unfortunate effect of making you type vi commands where inappropriate
10:31 haruki_zaemon: ok so now I'm thoroughly confused. Why do I need to specify #lang?
10:31 haruki_zaemon: what happens if I don't?
10:32 noel_w: haruki, do you use git
10:32 noel_w: ?
10:33 haruki_zaemon: sure do
10:33 noel_w: Try git clone git@github.com:noelwelsh/making-a-racket.git
10:33 noel_w: and then build the docs… (hang on while I get the command)
10:33 haruki_zaemon clones and builds ...
10:34 noel_w: just do scribble making-a-racket.scrbl
10:34 noel_w: It's very incomplete
10:34 haruki_zaemon: ahh just found the place in the doc that says "shorthand does not work well in a REPL, in part because it must be terminated by an end-of-file"
10:34 noel_w: but I think it might help you
10:34 haruki_zaemon: noel_w thanks
10:35 haruki_zaemon: ahh nice, thanks!
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10:42 haruki_zaemon: ok so I now understand #lang
10:42 haruki_zaemon: so racket vs racket/base?
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10:46 haruki_zaemon: ahh ok… I now understand, I think
10:46 haruki_zaemon: racket includes the whole kit and kaboodle
10:47 haruki_zaemon: racket/base just the bare minimum
10:47 haruki_zaemon: you'd then need to manually require eg racket/file
10:48 haruki_zaemon: ok time for zzzzz it's 00:48 here
10:48 haruki_zaemon: thanks for your help
10:52 MaXim_: 00:48 eh
10:52 MaXim_: you must be in the eastern states
10:52 MaXim_: nn
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11:19 samth: jeapostrophe: ping
11:19 jeapostrophe: pong
11:19 samth: did you get a chance to look at the charting thing i sent you?
11:20 jeapostrophe: I haven't read my email closely since friday, but I glanced at it and thought it was cool
11:20 jeapostrophe: What do I need to do to switch to using it?
11:20 samth: ok
11:20 samth: you need to make the timing data available as JSON
11:20 samth: preferably all as one array
11:21 jeapostrophe: And then just include some JS?
11:21 samth: yeah, do that, and then i'll write a patch for the drdr source
11:22 jeapostrophe: JSON at a url?
11:22 samth: yeah, probably foo_bar.timing.json would be great
11:22 jeapostrophe: And it doesn't matter what the type for the JSON is?
11:23 samth: also, if you enable cross-origin xmlhttprequest to drdr.racket-lang.org, that would make testing easier
11:23 jeapostrophe: I don't know what that means
11:23 samth: i'll see what you'd have to do
11:23 samth: text/plain is fine for the type
11:24 jeapostrophe: I mean the type of the JSON object
11:24 jeapostrophe: Clearly a single string would be silly
11:24 samth: just arrays where you have lists now
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11:24 jeapostrophe: And thats' it
11:24 jeapostrophe: okay
11:24 samth: so really just [] instead of ()
11:25 samth: and one pair of [] around the whole thing
11:28 samth: jeapostrophe: to enable cross-site XHR, just add the header 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin: *' to the responses for the relevant pages
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11:56 noel_w: ntoronto's plot package is nice
12:04 noel_w: for/vector: doesn't take a #:length argument?
12:04 noel_w: That's a bit annoying
12:06 noel_w: TR error messages are much improved, however
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12:09 samth: noel_w: good to hear
12:10 samth: stamourv: `for/vector:' needs a length argument
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12:22 jonrafkind: eli, are you going to IFL?
12:22 jeapostrophe: samth: http://drdr.racket-lang.org/json/timing/collects/tests/net/main.rkt
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12:29 samth: jeapostrophe: did you enable cross-site xhr?
12:30 samth: jeapostrophe: i see that you did, thanks!
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12:30 samth: firefox web console FTW!
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12:44 samth: tewk: ping
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12:50 tewk: samth: pong
12:51 samth: tewk: are the prints to stderr in this file http://drdr.racket-lang.org/23465/collects/tests/racket/place-channel-fd2.rkt errors?
12:51 rudybot: http://tinyurl.com/3gsnqh2
12:52 tewk: samth: no, its just information, however I think stdout is begin used in the test.
12:52 tewk: hmm
12:53 samth: you're calling (fprintf (current-error-port) ...)
12:53 samth: strangely, you use eprintf for the errors
12:53 samth: at least, that was my interpretation of the source
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12:57 tewk: samth: The stderr is helpful (because stdout is captured), but I'll comment it out so drdr doesn't complain.
12:58 tewk: I'll also clean up the fprintf stuff, eprintf should be used instead.
12:58 samth: tewk: i recommend using logging for that, then
12:58 samth: then run it with 'racket -W debug'
12:59 tewk: thats a good idea.
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13:00 stamourv: samth: I was not aware that for/vector: even worked.
13:01 stamourv: I remember trying to make it work, and failing.
13:01 samth: i think inference has improved some in the interim
13:02 stamourv: We improved inference?
13:02 samth: i believe so
13:02 stamourv: I remember us weakening it in weird corner cases, making it faster in the process.
13:02 samth: i think some things have improved since you last tried for/vector:
13:04 stamourv: Ok, so does it work?
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14:12 jonrafkind: I have module a: (provide (all-from-out racket/base)), module b uses a as its #lang but then b can't do (prefix-in), what am I missing from module a?
14:14 samth: jonrafkind: um, `(require racket/base)'?
14:15 jonrafkind: i had that otherwise a would fail to provide
14:16 samth: then you aren't missing anything
14:17 samth: probably something else is going wrong
14:17 jonrafkind: hm.. like what
14:17 samth: i don't know
14:17 samth: look at the macro stepper
14:25 jonrafkind: oh the issue is im using the wrong reader
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15:15 jonrafkind: is there a syntactic form that expands to nothing? I feel like I've done this before.. basically I want (my-form) to expand to nothing, #'() is the empty application
15:19 rapacity: I usually use #,@ for that stuff
15:20 jonrafkind: ok i just avoided the issue for now by detecting the empty syntaxes in the other cases of the case statement
15:29 samth: jonrafkind: i do the same as rapacity
15:30 jonrafkind: can you give an example of how you use #,@
15:33 samth: #`(cond [(foo? x) thing1] #,@(if condition #'([(bar? x) thing2] #'()) [else thing3])
15:34 samth: sorry, misparenthisized: #`(cond [(foo? x) thing1] #,@(if (even? (random 2)) #'([(bar? x) thing2]) #'()) [else thing3])
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16:32 RacketCommitBot: [racket/master] Reprovide the structs from "analyzer.rkt". - Eli Barzilay
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16:38 samth: stamourv: so, you just pushed only the make-identifier work, not the pre-expansion work?
16:38 stamourv: Correct.
16:39 stamourv: I haven't gotten that to work yet.
16:39 stamourv: But I wanted to get that out.
16:39 samth: great
16:39 stamourv: In part so you could look at it, and hep me figure it out ;).
16:39 stamourv: s/hep/help/
16:46 samth: first i have to finish w/ some javascript hacking
16:46 samth: http://punge.ccs.neu.edu/~samth/basic.html
16:46 stamourv: No problem. I'm still working on it anyway.
16:47 stamourv: I see a rectangle, and buttons.
16:47 stamourv: Should I see more than that?
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16:51 samth: try clicking the buttons
16:52 samth: wait, currently borked
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16:54 stamourv: Could also be my browser.
16:54 stamourv: I'm using an Iceweasel from the Louis XIV era.
16:55 stamourv: Debian Stable :D
16:56 samth: now it should work
16:56 stamourv: Now I don't see the rectangle anymore.
16:57 stamourv: And the buttons don't do anything.
16:59 stamourv: What is it supposed to be anyway?
17:01 samth: stamourv: try now
17:01 stamourv: Ooh.
17:01 stamourv: Pretty charts.
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17:18 samth: jeapostrophe: where's the static html for drdr pages?
17:18 samth: or where is it generated?
17:18 jeapostrophe: render.rkt
17:19 samth: thx
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17:35 samth: jeapostrophe: patch sent
17:37 jeapostrophe: thx
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17:46 samth: eli: the open pull req for match is merged
17:50 jeapostrophe: samth: totally busted
17:50 jeapostrophe: http://drdr.racket-lang.org/23468/collects/tests/planet/run-all.rkt
17:51 samth: jeapostrophe: there's a paren-problem
17:52 samth: after the jquery script src, there's not enough )
17:52 samth: extra right paren before the "reset" button
17:53 jeapostrophe: sorry i don't see it
17:53 samth: jeapostrophe: i don't see it in the racket source
17:53 samth: but it's in the output html
17:53 samth: look at the source to that file
17:54 jeapostrophe: to chart.js?
17:55 samth: no, the source of  http://drdr.racket-lang.org/23468/collects/tests/planet/run-all.rkt
17:55 jeapostrophe: Ya I don't see a broken parent
17:56 samth: firefox is highlighting the source as if the <script ... src="jquery..." /> continues until the last </script>
17:56 samth: which is exactly how it's rendering
17:56 jeapostrophe: No, the script is a /> tag
17:57 samth: i see that
17:57 samth: all i'm saying is that it's rendering and syntx highlighting as if that doesn't work
17:57 samth: try putting " " as the body of the script tags
17:58 jeapostrophe: so i fixed that
17:58 jeapostrophe: but it isn't working for me
17:59 samth: also not working for me
18:00 samth: jeapostrophe: it's looking for the JS files in the wrong place
18:00 samth: i think
18:00 jeapostrophe: yes
18:01 samth: yeah, they need a / in front
18:01 jeapostrophe: alright
18:01 jeapostrophe: done
18:01 samth: working for me
18:01 samth: i think it needs some whitespace on the top of the chart
18:02 jeapostrophe: hows that
18:02 samth: for me, the top number on the chart on that page is almost overlapping with the output display
18:03 jeapostrophe: After my update?
18:03 samth: much better
18:03 jeapostrophe: rad
18:03 jeapostrophe: can you write new help text on the graphs?
18:03 samth: also, i'd take out the moving average -- i've decided i don't like it
18:03 samth: and yes
18:04 samth: you should just be able to comment out the two lines that use the 'overall_avg' variable
18:05 jeapostrophe: in what file?
18:05 samth: chart.js
18:06 jeapostrophe: k
18:06 jeapostrophe: i did that
18:06 samth: cool
18:07 samth: i'll write some help text, and push it later today
18:07 jeapostrophe: rad
18:07 samth: and i'll announce to the list
18:07 samth: thanks for your help
18:07 jeapostrophe: word thank you
18:07 jeapostrophe: this will make it go faster
18:07 jeapostrophe: it spends about 10 minutes on graphs
18:07 samth: wow
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18:08 samth: i love faster
18:08 samth: also, you should give some different options to /bin/tar to remove the stderr warning
18:08 jeapostrophe: which ones?
18:09 samth: this isn't so good : http://drdr.racket-lang.org/23468/collects/tests/racket/benchmarks/mz/parsing.rktl
18:09 rudybot: http://tinyurl.com/3vftwsy
18:09 samth: :)
18:09 jeapostrophe: woaaaaaah
18:09 samth: i'm not sure what the right thing to do there is
18:10 samth: i'll try to come up with a solution, though
18:10 samth: but not immediately
18:10 samth: if you hide the legend, it gets better
18:10 jeapostrophe: k
18:10 jeapostrophe: i gtg, thanks for this
18:11 samth: np
18:12 samth: fun to hack some js occasionally
18:12 jeapostrophe: lolz
18:12 jeapostrophe: oh, not a joke?
18:12 jeapostrophe: :P
18:13 jeapostrophe: js makes me hate the web now
18:14 jeapostrophe: (from a programming side, that is)
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18:36 jonrafkind: samth, i dont fully understand the circles, what are they for?
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18:51 samth: jonrafkind: if you have a use of `time' in your program, it spits out timing data every run
18:51 samth: the circles plot that
18:51 jonrafkind: why is that useful?
18:51 samth: why is which useful?
18:51 jonrafkind: i mean seems sort of strange to me..
18:51 jonrafkind: showing (time) as circles
18:52 samth: would you rather have it as a line?
18:52 jonrafkind: seems like just hte yellow line is good enough
18:52 samth: but if you time multiple things in your file, then the yellow line doesn't have all the information
18:52 jonrafkind: how can you correlate multiple time's with multiple circle's?
18:53 samth: they appear in order in the file
18:53 samth: in the output, that is
18:53 jonrafkind: oh ok
18:53 jonrafkind: you mean the order they are executed in?
18:54 jonrafkind: or the order they physically appear
18:54 samth: the order they appear in the output
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22:00 dnolen: hmm when using Racket r6rs why does (cons 1 '()) print as (mcons 1 '()) ?
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22:03 dnolen: actually it only seems to do this at the Geisder REPL
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22:54 mithos28: dnolen: because the cons in r6rs corresponds to mcons from the racket language
23:38 dnolen: related question, how can I use a racket definition (time) from r6rs ?
23:39 MaXim_: hmm, whats a good way to determine how much memory im using?
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23:45 MaXim_: and what does "enable tests" do?
23:45 MaXim_: i assume its to enable test macros in the definitions, but i dont know how to write tests
23:46 mithos28: dnolen: you should be able to do an import (only-in racket time). My memory of r6rs imports is a bit hazy though
23:46 mithos28: MaXim_: where is this 'enable tests'?
23:47 dnolen: mithos28: yeah that doesn't seem to work.
23:47 MaXim_: under the racket menu
23:48 mithos28: dnolen: what happens?
23:48 dnolen: mithos28: error about the syntax
23:49 dnolen: import: cannot find suitable library installed, and the paths it's looking at
23:50 mithos28: MaXim_: I'm not sure
23:51 MaXim_: hm ok
23:51 MaXim_: lol
23:51 MaXim_: i was hoping i could write some neat test cases that could be turned off with one switch
23:52 mithos28: dnolen: its (only (racket) time)
23:53 dnolen: mithos28: thx!
23:54 mithos28: MaXim_: It might be for the test cases with the htdp languages
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23:55 MaXim_: ah ok
23:55 MaXim_: :(
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23:56 mithos28: you can comment your test cases, using #; to comment out a whole sexp