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04:38 lewis1711: funny story, turns out what I thought was a defficiency in racket was actually a defficiency in my own skills. who'da thought!?
04:43 lewis1711: no wait this may still be rackets "fault" (or undocumented feature)
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06:56 Lajla: lewis1711, what is it?
06:57 lewis1711: Lajla: if I create a cstruct, bind it, then pass it to a function, it all works well
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06:57 lewis1711: if I create it, bind it, then pass it to a function as the output of another function, segfaults
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10:36 mye: Is the GC (3M) stop-the-world or incremental?
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11:13 samth: mye, it stops all computation
11:14 samth: using futures, it's possible to allocate while other threads run, but not collect
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11:22 Lajla: samth, if you have CPS and no mutation, doesn't that make garbage collection significantly simpler?
11:26 samth: if you have no mutation, garbage collection is signifcantly simpler
11:26 samth: cps is neither here nor there
11:27 mye: hm, I can't copy/paste from the log, but it often says GC [major] ... collected in 1172 msec, does that really mean it stops the whole web-server (in this case) for more than one second?
11:27 samth: yes
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11:46 Lajla: samth, but like, if you use CPS, basically every intermediate result is allocated as a function variable and can automatically be discarted when the function ends unles it's used to generate a closure, right?
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13:37 jeapostrophe: samth: you pinged a while ago?
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14:22 samth: mattmight, when is the list of pldi papers going to be up on the website?
14:23 mattmight: As soon as someone sends it to me.
14:23 samth: :)
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16:29 tony_: If you're happy and you know it clap your hands.
16:29 jonrafkind: i started a nuclear war
16:30 tony_: I'm a giant cockroach, so I don't care.
16:33 Lajla: Let's start a war
16:33 Lajla: start a nuclear war
16:34 Lajla: at the gaybar
16:34 Lajla: Say
16:34 Lajla: My cockroached died today. oo;
16:34 Lajla: I just put a towel over the terrarium last evening because I opened the wndow and they don't like sunlight
16:34 Lajla: I woke up this morning
16:34 Lajla: ALL DEAD
16:34 Lajla: I guess they like oxygen or not sure what hapepned
16:34 Lajla: I figured they could still breathe through that...
16:35 (nick) tony_ -> amaw
16:35 amaw: Murderer.
16:35 amaw: Those were my third cousins.
16:36 Lajla: Don't joke about my pets dying dude.
16:36 Lajla: I will unleash emma upon you.
16:36 jonrafkind: i want to build a tunnel to the center of the moon!
16:36 amaw: If you dig it through to the other side, you can jump in the hold and experience simple harmonic motion.
16:36 amaw: (hold->hole)
16:40 amaw: My pet tauntaun is pregnant and her foetus is singing "Ice, ice, baby."
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17:10 Lajla: (datum->syntax jonrafkind #'amaw)
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17:51 Demosthenes: anyone here using the mongo interface, and have an example query?
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18:39 Lajla: amaw, by the way.
18:39 Lajla: I just realized a way you can see how it's indeed a repl that evaluates.
18:39 Lajla: Try (list 1 2 3)
18:39 Lajla: You will see it prints out '(1 2 3)
18:39 Lajla: And not '(list 1 2 3)
18:40 Lajla: Or (list 1 2 3)
18:43 amaw: Lajla: yes, my puzzlement yesterday has been thoroughly resolved now.  I always knew the repl evaluated; I just didn't understand the need for a new semantics for print.
18:44 Lajla: Well, I suppose you can say this
18:44 Lajla: write prints out the datum in quaestion.
18:45 Lajla: print prints out the simplest code which when evaluated produce the datum
18:45 amaw: Yes Lajla.  This matter has been beaten to death, then to a coma, then back to death again.
18:45 Lajla: Not enough
18:45 Lajla: I still think saying that 'foo is a symbol is weird
18:45 Lajla: How about '(foo bar)
18:46 Lajla: Surely this is a list that contains two symbols?
18:46 Lajla: So why don't we write '('foo 'bar) ?
18:46 Lajla: jonrafkind, you read this?
18:46 amaw: Excuse me, but I now need a Drano cocktail.
18:46 Lajla: Again I reduce your vaunted system to the ground.
18:46 Lajla: You cannot deny it.
18:46 Lajla: I win.
18:46 Lajla: The clickwheel is at my side.
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19:47 Demosthenes: hrm. i can query mongo using cons cells of exact values, but now i'm trying to discover how to do things like tag > 0
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