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12:27 Lajla: chandler, are you a world-recognised authority on syntax-case?
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13:25 vu3rdd: in the DrRacket editor, I see that some keywords are highlighted, some are not. For ex, define, cond, let etc are highlighted as I type. But not 'if', and, or etc. Am I mssing something?
13:26 vu3rdd: when I say highligted, I mean, according to the color scheme selected in the preferences
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13:37 SilentCry: hi all, somebody from Czech?
13:38 Lajla: vu3rdd, if is not highlighted?
13:38 SilentCry: i need help with racket, i am totally newbie...
13:38 vu3rdd: Lajla: no. It is the same color as that of the symbols.
13:38 vu3rdd: if, and, or etc
13:38 vu3rdd: but cond, let etc are.
13:38 SilentCry: have racket visual user interface?
13:38 Lajla: SilentCry, I'm not czech, but as chandler will agree, I am the undisputed expert on racket.
13:38 Lajla: SilentCry, indeed.
13:39 Lajla: DrRacket is an IDE that comes with it.
13:39 SilentCry: and do you know, how i can run the racket interface in ubuntu??
13:39 Lajla: I guess that would be $ drracket
13:39 SilentCry: Ok, i'll try it now...
13:40 Lajla: vu3rdd, oh well, I have this turned off, I feel that highlighting 'keywords' goes against the idea of syntactic extensions
13:40 SilentCry: indeed, it is all right :-) thx...
13:40 vu3rdd: Lajla: ok
13:41 Lajla: But I see no real reason for 'and' not highted, but cond being highlighted I guess.
13:41 vu3rdd: Lajla: do you see it all highligted in your setup?
13:41 Lajla: vu3rdd, none actually.
13:41 Lajla: At least, in DrRacket.
13:41 vu3rdd: I am running a fairly recent git checkout of DrRacket
13:41 vu3rdd: Lajla: Ok
13:41 Lajla: In nodepadd++ it ś even more perverse, there eqv? for instance is highlighted in the same way as define.
13:42 Lajla: It highlights all parts of R5RS I guess
13:43 SilentCry: and only for my info... Racket language is only newer version of Scheme? Or it is something else?
13:43 Lajla: SilentCry, racket is neither a superset nor a subset of any 'official' scheme standard
13:43 Lajla: But it's indeed heavily influenced by it.
13:44 Lajla: And almost a superset.
13:44 Lajla: In essense, if you write scheme in a 'scheme style' Racket will most likely accept it and do what you expect.
13:44 Lajla: But Racket, as a program, not a language, can also handle R5RS and R6RS Scheme, together with a bunch of variations
13:45 Lajla: SilentCry, but anyway, teach me Czech one day.
13:45 Lajla: It is one of the languages I always wanted to learn.
13:45 Lajla: But I only know 'strcz prst skrz krk' =(
13:46 SilentCry: OK :-D Very nice :-D
13:46 SilentCry: But in really czech with right codepage it is Strč prst skrz krk :-) Do you see it?
13:47 SilentCry: it mean something like "Put your finger through the neck"
13:48 Lajla: Yeah
13:48 Lajla: I even know the grammar. =D
13:48 SilentCry: its only nursery rhyme for little child to learn "R"
13:48 Lajla: Put finger (accusative) through neck (accusaitve)(
13:48 Lajla: I like that part of Czech, that l and r can be syllabic nuclei.
13:48 Lajla: And that there is one word for finger and toe.
13:49 SilentCry: you are learning Czech?? Why? :-D
13:49 Lajla: No, I want to learn Czech.
13:49 Lajla: Because Czech has about the most complicated grammar of any living language. \o/
13:49 SilentCry: It's very difficult language :-)
13:49 Lajla: Indo-European, that is.
13:50 Lajla: Also, words like 'Kdo', I have no idea how to pronounce that.
13:50 SilentCry: Indo-European?? nono... Its slovan language...
13:50 SilentCry: Kdo means "Who"
13:50 Lajla: Indo-European is the parent langauge of slavic.
13:51 Lajla: Like, the Proto-Indo European language split up into the italic languages like Greek and Latin, and the Slavic languages, and the Germanic langauges, and also the Aryan languages like Sanskrit and Persian
13:51 SilentCry: Yes? I really dont know about this "language descriptions" :-D
13:52 SilentCry: And is something specific what you want to know??
13:52 Lajla: Ahh, well, in the end English, Latin and Czech come from one language.
13:52 Lajla: Hmm, I still need a book on czech to even get started. =P
13:52 Lajla: It's not really a language most people want to learn, so you can't study it at a university, and here are very little books about it.
13:53 SilentCry: Yes? We have books and books and more books :-D
13:53 Lajla: But these are in Czech, right?
13:53 SilentCry: yes :-D
13:54 Lajla: I can't read it yet. =(
13:54 Lajla: I can only do a little Slovene.
13:54 SilentCry: oh, now i understand...
13:55 SilentCry: you mean something like Czech-English  written books?
13:55 SilentCry: I learn English very good from the book "The Lord of the Rings" and the book "Pán prstenů"
13:56 Lajla: SilentCry, ahh, no, I mean like, a book to learn Czech from.
13:56 SilentCry: It's really good to have  book in each language
13:56 Lajla: Like a school book
13:56 Lajla: That explains the grammar and all those things
13:57 SilentCry: yes... something like "Česká gramatika" :-)
13:58 SilentCry: I know that this book really exists, but i newer see it :-D
13:59 Lajla: strcz muj pyj v krk
13:59 Lajla: I can't make all those accents. =(
13:59 SilentCry: :-D
14:00 SilentCry: "muj pyj" ? :-D
14:00 SilentCry: ti means "my dick" :-D
14:00 Lajla: I know, ahah.
14:01 SilentCry: i must go now, i will be here next time, may tomorrow :-) Bye for now
14:01 Lajla: muj pvj je v tvém krki
14:02 Lajla: Bybye
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15:28 chandler: Lajla: No, but I know a lot about it.
15:28 chandler: Rather, I know a lot about how to *use* it. I try to avoid knowing about how it's implemented, at least in the case of psyntax.
15:32 Lajla: chandler, what is 'a lot'?
15:32 Lajla: they say you only understand a langauge once you can bootstrap it.
15:32 Lajla: And I kind of like that definition
15:33 chandler: I haven't implemented it. I have implemented hygiene, but for a `syntax-rules' type system, not a procedural system like `syntax-case'.
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16:55 offby1: Should I report a bug on HEAD via the mailing list, or via DrRacket?
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19:17 offby1: Am I a fool to build racket with "make -j2"?  I often see warnings with -j2, and just this second am seeing no warnings without it, but have never taken the time to carefully compare.
19:17 offby1: sure makes the laptop get hot
19:37 offby1: Hmm, I'm having trouble building.  How can I tell if the problem is on my end?  I looked at http://pre.racket-lang.org/build-log.txt, but that's four days old, and (at least as I see it) truncated.
19:55 reified: why don't you just use a binary distribution?
19:59 offby1: oh, I am indeed downloading the most recent installer, too.
19:59 offby1: But y'know I like to live on the bleeding edge.
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23:02 neilv: is the racket email list software stalled?
23:03 neilv: the last email i received from the users list was 20:45 EDT, but mail-archive.com has subsequent messages
23:05 neilv: nevermind. problem on my end
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