07:29 (topic) -: Racket -- http://racket-lang.org/ (logs at http://racket-lang.org/irc-logs/ )
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12:02 emma: Do the fonts in the compiled from source DrRacket differ from the DrScheme in the Ubuntu repos?
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12:12 samth: tonyg, a paper you might want to look at related to our conversation yesterday: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/scheme/pubs/#scheme2007-ctf
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12:23 bremner: emma: what happens if you choose a different font under edit->preferences?  I use DejaVu Sans Mono
12:25 emma: bremner: it's like the entire gui is a different resolution
12:26 emma: bremner: like in the ubuntu version there is subpixel smoothing or something and on the from source version there isn't.
12:29 bremner: hmm. sorry, not familiar enough with drscheme to comment
12:33 bremner: Are you sure the problem is not font related? I.e. if you explicitly set it to some ttf font, does it still look ugly?
12:42 emma: take a look --- http://i.imgur.com/OTsZf.png
12:42 emma: no in both cases that's how it looks/is on the very first time starting it.
12:43 emma: look at even the menu names and the little running man and such.
12:43 emma: and where there are "quotation marks' in the ubuntu one there are little boxes in the compiled one.
12:43 emma: and the colors are not as vivid.
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12:58 bremner: my DrRacket looks more like the example on the right.
12:59 bremner: again, it looks like a font problem.
13:07 samth: emma, my drracket also looks like the one on the right
13:07 samth: but i think it's just your font choice
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13:16 jonrafkind: tewk, are you interested in places bugs (api/documentation) yet/
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13:40 tonyg: samth: thanks for the link, i'll check it out
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15:55 emma: samth: did you compile from source and, did you use any flags to indicate nicer x rendering?
16:01 chandler: emma: I'm thinking that you might be missing a build-dep for Racket.
16:02 chandler: Try running something like "apt-get build-dep plt-scheme". Does it install any new packages?
16:02 emma: im sure that, at least, I installed everything that ./configure indicated.
16:02 chandler: The nature of autoconf is that you can still build the package if you're missing an optional dependency.
16:03 chandler: The nature of Debian/Ubuntu is that you have to go hunting for -dev variants of packages you have installed, and `build-dep' doesn't always work.
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16:04 emma: aptitude build-dep plt-scheme would install 39 packages
16:05 chandler: Is something like libfreetype6-dev or libxft-dev in the list?
16:05 emma: yes!
16:06 chandler: Yup, that's what you were missing.
16:06 emma: do those have to be there when you are compiling or will it look for it now?
16:06 chandler: Let it install all the build-deps and try building again.
16:06 emma: okay sure.
16:06 chandler: They have to be there when compiling.
16:08 emma: chandler: shouldn't those show up when you run ./configure and it tells you what dependencies are missing?
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16:15 bremner: emma: if you know how to use git, you may find http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/racket.git;a=summary  helpful, since you can find the dependencies I use (in debian/control) to build on debian
16:15 bremner: actually I guess you don't need git, you can use the web interface.
16:16 chandler: emma: It's not a dependency as you can build and run without it (as you discovered). It's optional.
16:17 emma: yeah i see what you are saying.
16:17 emma: maybe some place in the README or the .configure --help it would mention optional libs that would make it much better.
16:17 emma: im sort of new to compiling from source so i was pretty pleased i got it working at all :)
16:20 chandler: bremner: How goes the racket-in-Debian effort?
16:21 chandler supposes a Racket PPA might be useful for Ubuntu users
16:22 bremner: chandler: oh, a bit slower than hoped, but I met ari last week, and we are working on it a bit.
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19:58 Lajla: samth_away, so, how much does CPS suit itself for non strict, or should one use graph reduction then?
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22:59 emma: woohoo. i compiled Racket from source with libsexy and not it looks awesome.
22:59 emma: s/not/now/
23:12 offby1: .oO("libsexy"?)
23:20 emma: offby1: i don't remember exactly what it was called but that's what it ought to be because that's what it does for DrRacket :)
23:21 emma: could have been libfreetype6-dev or libxft-dev
23:25 emma: 22:55:14 < emma> woohoo. i compiled Racket from source with libsexy and not it looks awesome.
23:25 emma: 22:55:26 < emma> s/not/now/
23:25 emma: offby1: sorry about that, copy-paste fail.
23:26 emma: offby1: this is what i meant to paste for you -- http://i.imgur.com/OTsZf.png
23:26 emma: offby1: that shows the difference of compiled without (left) and compiled with (right) the lib
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23:36 chandler: emma: Cool, glad it worked.
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23:45 emma: chandler: thanks!
23:51 offby1: my eyes!